Really? They put Shadowkeeper on the Mog Station?

[Arkfrost]

I'm pretty sure EVERYONE was expecting this to be the mount reward for clearing e4s, e8s and e12s as a party of 8 blue mages synced, and yet Square Enix disappoints once more by putting this in the mogstation.

And if that wasn't enough, it doesn't even play "Don't Be Afraid" (the theme that plays in Eden 10), but it plays fkn Horizons Calling (the Hullbreaker Isle theme). Are we a joke to you SE?

[Daeriion_Aeradiir]

weird, when i went over the financial reports for every quarter in endwalker and shadowbringers and saw that since stormblood theres been no increase to budget at all, i would not have drawn this conclusion.
i wonder where you get this info from, the fact yoshi said it in a live letter?
that's not definitive proof beyond your faith, unfortunately.

Can you cite links to the exact financial reports that showcase the budget for each expansion? Would be an interesting read to analyze and help back up your claims, since I would find it hard to believe their budget has remained identical since Stormblood, especially factoring in inflation since then along with rising salaries & cost of technology.

It feels really odd that people are saying that the cash shop was needed to provide basic features to the game even after a massive surge in player numbers that seemingly lead to no investment to accommodate those players

The reality is it doesn't, but it's not entirely untrue either. Mogstation provides a necessary evil to the game: moderating sub costs. Ever wonder why when factoring in inflation, the sub cost hasn't risen by the roughly $5 inflation says it should have in the past decade?

Allow me to let you in on a secret in most software development: regardless of player numbers, the sub price is woefully underpriced from what it would actually need to be. If the game was purely operated on sub prices, it would literally not be worth the financial investment for Square to continue development for it without a major sub adjustment. Almost every service out there that offers a subscription prices it so that the sub will cover the basic operating costs to break even assuming X number of users. The companies make the majority of their profits through alternative avenues, like ads / data selling/handling, etc. Like let me paint a picture here: On the Assassin's Creed game I was a developer for, Nearly 80% of the game's profits came from micro transactions. If the game had been viewed by investors purely on its box/digital sales, the game would have been a colossal failure.

It's why you see the prevalent rise of microtransactions / free to play models in this day and age - box / sub price isn't profitable on its own anymore. Supplementary methods of income from a game product releasing into the AAA gaming space are effectively a necessity these days.

Raising the sub price to it's profitable value is also not a valid option for plenty of companies and is often done as a means of last resort, since by increasing the price of the sub, you will by nature automatically price out a subsection of your userbase, a risky move where the extra profits must offset the lost revenue.

The only reason FF14's sub price hasn't gone up is purely because the mogstation allows a single whale to pay the sub cost of hundreds, if not thousand's of peoples of subs each month. It also makes the game look way more appealing to the board of directors as an ongoing service product to continue supporting, despite it's extremely high operations cost from worker salaries to tech upgrades/etc. FF11 continues to get away with what it does due to the fact the game is operated by a skeleton crew, meaning its operating costs are extremely low in comparison.

That being said, back to the topic that appears everytime they add something to the mogstation. So let's run down the usual list of points people conveniently like to forget, shall we?

-The mogstation team that worked on this is entirely separated from Yoshi-P and his development team with only minor interactions between them, it doesn't detract from FF14 development at all.
-Adding on to the above, there is no guarantee that if the mogstation ever existed, this would have ever been in the game. full-stop. In reality, Yoshi-P more than likely has to sign off on a mogstation project to make sure it doesn't interfere with the main dev team's plans. (I.E: making sure if Yoshi-P wanted to include a Shadowkeeper mount at some point, that the mogstation team wouldn't make it.) Which means anything on the mogstation was never going to be in-game naturally, as it had zero development plans on the main team.

[TheRealQuah]

Once again, like every time one of these threads come out. The new mounts and outfits sold on the store are made by a third party company, not CBU3. If there was no store, then the exclusive items on there would not exist.

[Jojoya]

And here I was thinking "damn that's ugly as a mount, I would never buy it".

I also like how some of the replies on the first page are Titanmen replying to himself. Nice job. Also confused why some think an Eden boss mount should drop in Pandaemonium.

[NekiUno]

It is kinda of fun to see the same conversion when it comes down to mounts and mogstation every time. That mount and everything else in that cash shop is Optional and it is not going to give you any bonus (except for the Cloud's Motorcycle) and it is for cosmetics and nothing else. If you want it and you have the money for it, then get it and if you dont, then dont worry about it.

For the price of it, A little story about IRL me. I am Fate/Grand Order player (I am Free to Play now) but in the older days I used to use Wallet-kun to help me out on my sprees. So one day, I decided to check out much I spend during that timeframe and believe me I will never complain about how much any mount or outfit ever again. In short, I spend so much that I would be able to pay for somebody else FF account for 10 years that included all of the retainers...…that amount happen within six months. I rather spend 25$ over 79.99 any day and it does not have 0.1% Success Chance either.

[Catwho]

After playing the demo I dont think SE are going to have a problem with 16's sales figures.

Same. I know two people in my direct friend's list that were on the fence about pre-ordering that pulled the trigger yesterday.

And another person that watched a streamer playing the demo and sighed and ordered a PS5.

[jameseoakes]

Once again, like every time one of these threads come out. The new mounts and outfits sold on the store are made by a third party company, not CBU3. If there was no store, then the exclusive items on there would not exist.

I find the truth of this questionable when it's using outright game assets

[Aneshda]

*Clicks on the Purchase Button*

Don't understand this thread. Whenever SE putts new Mounts or Glamours into the Shop, someone opens a Thread just to spread negative vibes. All this rage over a 16.80 Mount.

[Boblawblah]

Eh, another way too big mount that I would never use anyways. The flying animation looks generic too. Good looking doggo though.

[DayHealer]

Im actually happy SE put this mount behind real money, so I can actually laugh at all the complaints and crying in this thread and Reddit.