Whats your Wars hate cycle?

[Angof]

Depends what I'm tanking.

For wolf camp I:

Aggro everything > Do sentinel, rampart, or collusion > steel cyclone combo > win> repeat

For ifrit I:

Antagonize > Provoke > Flash > steel cyclone combo > repeat as cooldowns are up

Yes I know I am missing out on a lot of abilities I could use for hate generation, but I find I don't really need them.

[KumaAkuma]

Have you tried doing a set amount of dmg say 1k, then poping antagonize. Follow that with a 2nd player trying to AA up enough dmg to pull hate, see if hate is pulled at 1,001 dmg? or 1,151 (assuming you gain 15% more enmity on already incurred actions). I hope your correct but I highly doubt it.

I base this on the situation I get in dungeons sometimes: I agro all mobs just by running around (blinking red), whm throws buffs on me and gets hate (colors of mobs goes to yellow, green), I use Antagonize and hate goes back up to red-ish.

Not a proper test, just something I see happening.

[Dragon]

I just call Ifrit names, tell others to go to hell, sacrifice the lalafell with a punt, then destroy my party.

d(^.~)b

[carraway]

I base this on the situation I get in dungeons sometimes: I agro all mobs just by running around (blinking red), whm throws buffs on me and gets hate (colors of mobs goes to yellow, green), I use Antagonize and hate goes back up to red-ish.

Not a proper test, just something I see happening.

This is because Antagonize is a self-buff and incurs a small amount of enmity upon usage. At that point in time, the proportional amount of enmity is so low that one self-buff can shift your enmity by a substantial percentage.

[Forerunner]

Auto-attack -> Antagonize -> Sentinel -> Flash -> Provoke -> Rampart -> Steel Cyclone combo.

Repeat as cooldowns allow.

[SwordCoheir]

Pretty much what Forerunner said.

[Tezz_Xivectro]

This is what i've been using for everything. Don't think i left anything out...

In General for 1 on 1...
#1:
(Collusion used on someone at start & mid-fight afterwards while going through these actions)
Attack >> Antagonize >> Provoke* >> Flash >> Vengeance >> Rampart >> Second Wind* >> Foresight* >> Featherfoot*

#2:
Build TP (try not waste time using too many random actions at this time)
(Some people use throwing weapons right after an auto-attack for more TP gain)

#3:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/107...=1#post5128457
(Sentinel apparently isn't working on regular actions, but does for Damage)
Sentinel* >> BloodBath(if need) >> Steel Cyclone combo (If enough TP or Cooldown, Godsbane Combo)

Repeat.

*Depending on the fight, you may save these, but may use them at the very start usually & as needed.


Usually don't whirlwind combo that often unless everything is on cooldown, if that.

For 1 vs Many, sentinel/antagonize as usual & prioritize your Steel Cyclone & Whirlwind Combos. Using single target actions on any strays.
At start, collusion a BLM excrutiate/flare or firaga usually.
Keep Vengeance up for more damage.

[Krausus]

I been going Antagonize > Provoke > Flash > Rampart > Steel Cyclone > Vengeance

[Holyomen]

This thread needs a hotfix update.


Maddening Potion > Auto Attack > Collusion
Sentinel > Flash > Provoke > Steel Cyclone Combo + Bloodbath
Rampart > Second Wind > Vengeance > Auto Attack
Antagonize > Provoke > Flash > Steel Cyclone Combo
Collusion anyone in red or next highest dmg WS
Auto Attack to 2500 TP and hold off on cures
Sentintel > Provoke > Flash
Bloodbath > Mighty Strikes > Path of the Storm > Steel Cyclone Combo


I tend to stay away from using Featherfoot or Foresight, unless I'm really in need, just to make sure my HP is always low enough to get full cures & enmity from Bloodbath, Second Wind, and cures from Crits & Mog Axe.

[Molly_Millions]

Hate cycle is mentioned above, no need to rehash what's already been said.

The key to winning the moogle king fight as a WAR tank is collusion a BLM during the song, right before the BLM pops flare (a marco works best). Immediately afterthe song, when the moogles are closest together, pop a maddening potion and do steel cyclone (by itself). After that, run around flailing your arms until all the moogles are down but the king, then beat the crap out of the king.

With this, my LS wins the moogle fight with me on tank 95% of the time.