Obvious gil farming, or FC house reselling

[Starien]

There is nothing stopping you from creating an FC house.

Mind your own.

If you see a player acting in a way which "obviously" circumvents TOS, then report them and let the GMs sort it out.

[Xelanar]

Lets be honest, if you visit the FC wards theres a remarkable number of undecorated small/medium houses owned by FC's with maybe 2 people in them at most. It's obvious what they're using them for, and its not for the enjoyment of owning a house. They're either passively farming gil on their 8x FC houses per world, or holding onto them for resale.

The question is, why isn't it harder for an FC to get a house? Under the current system its harder to farm the gil, rather than unlock the privelege of buying housing on behalf of the FC. At least with personal houses its locked to one per DC, per account.

What exactly is the issue you have with people having multiple undecorated houses for farming gil, or for reselling? Is it because they are blocking limited housing space from other FCs who are struggling to get a house to this day, or because they are taking advantage of limited plot supply?
If so, why not ask for a solution to the actual problem: the ward system restricting supply of houses to only a portion of the player base, or houses being a requirement for company workshops? Why do you believe a set of strict yet circumventable rules for building FCs is the way to go?

[Archeron]

What exactly is the issue you have with people having multiple undecorated houses for farming gil, or for reselling? Is it because they are blocking limited housing space from other FCs who are struggling to get a house to this day, or because they are taking advantage of limited plot supply?
If so, why not ask for a solution to the actual problem: the ward system restricting supply of houses to only a portion of the player base, or houses being a requirement for company workshops? Why do you believe a set of strict yet circumventable rules for building FCs is the way to go?

The problem is obvious, it allows people just hoard houses to themselves with 0 restriction per account, wasting houses that people could actually use, especially on populated servers. Go find any of these FC's that are dying for a house, and see what they think of undecorated submarine farm house #586.

Meanwhile people struggle to even get a small house personal on all but the lowest populated datacenters/new worlds. You can't fix the FC workshop without making it easily available to everyone, and gil farmers / RMT will absolutely love that, just like they currently do with their 8 houses per account, choking all the FC wards with ugly, vacant, unused housing. Or they're just blatantly reselling them on several discord servers for upwards of 100,000,000+ gil. More restrictions to FC's will hardly be noticed, since the restrictions I think would help cull the problem would be easy to meet if you're an an actual fc with people in it. Not a solo FC.

I do love all the people who own multiple houses in this thread huffing copium and trying to justify their hoarding of houses, you do make me laugh at your selfishness.

[Nepentha]

The problem is obvious, it allows people just hoard houses to themselves with 0 restriction per account, wasting houses that people could actually use, especially on populated servers. Go find any of these FC's that are dying for a house, and see what they think of undecorated submarine farm house #586.

Meanwhile people struggle to even get a small house personal on all but the lowest populated datacenters/new worlds. You can't fix the FC workshop without making it easily available to everyone, and gil farmers / RMT will absolutely love that, just like they currently do with their 8 houses per account, choking all the FC wards with ugly, vacant, unused housing. Or they're just blatantly reselling them on several discord servers for upwards of 100,000,000+ gil. More restrictions to FC's will hardly be noticed, since the restrictions I think would help cull the problem would be easy to meet if you're an an actual fc with people in it. Not a solo FC.

I do love all the people who own multiple houses in this thread huffing copium and trying to justify their hoarding of houses, you do make me laugh at your selfishness.

Look, man. If people are so desperate for housing, they need to move to Dynamis. Because right now, there's a ton of housing open, just sitting there. Vacant plots. No bids on them every lotto cycle.

Otherwise, don't come crying to me that someone moves in using that plot for the workshop.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

Look, man. If people are so desperate for housing, they need to move to Dynamis. Because right now, there's a ton of housing open, just sitting there. Vacant plots. No bids on them every lotto cycle.

This actually brings up an interesting talking point. There are still tons of house plots on Dynamis, and yet those haven't been taken over by gil farmers. So if gil farming was as big a problem as OP thinks it was, wouldn't they have moved in to those houses too? Not like its hard to make a shell FC if you're already wealthy. Nor is it hard to transfer gil between DCs.

[Stormpeaks]

This actually brings up an interesting talking point. There are still tons of house plots on Dynamis, and yet those haven't been taken over by gil farmers. So if gil farming was as big a problem as OP thinks it was, wouldn't they have moved in to those houses too? Not like its hard to make a shell FC if you're already wealthy. Nor is it hard to transfer gil between DCs.

now now dont you dare use common sense on the forums, these damn multiowners stealing our houses !! grab the pitchforks !!!

meanwhile on Dynamis (Marilith) : (mediums and larges only)


Shirogane, Ward 17, Plot 37 Large 42,500,000 20 Accepting Entries Individual 15 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 13, Plot 16 Large 40,000,000 16 Accepting Entries Individual 15 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 13, Plot 38 Medium 20,000,000 12 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 15, Plot 43 Large 42,500,000 10 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 24, Plot 45 Medium 18,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 21, Plot 38 Medium 18,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 18, Plot 13 Medium 17,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 12, Plot 25 Medium 16,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 19, Plot 4 Medium 19,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 23, Plot 38 Medium 18,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 15, Plot 43 Medium 17,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
Empyreum, Ward 13, Plot 7 Medium 19,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
Empyreum, Ward 19, Plot 51 Medium 20,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 10, Plot 41 Medium 16,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 17 hours ago
Empyreum, Ward 5, Plot 32 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago
Empyreum, Ward 5, Plot 38 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago
Empyreum, Ward 5, Plot 47 Medium 18,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago
Empyreum, Ward 5, Plot 51 Medium 20,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago
Empyreum, Ward 6, Plot 32 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago
Empyreum, Ward 6, Plot 37 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago
Empyreum, Ward 6, Plot 38 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago
Empyreum, Ward 7, Plot 32 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago
Empyreum, Ward 8, Plot 32 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 13 hours ago
Empyreum, Ward 8, Plot 37 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago
Empyreum, Ward 8, Plot 38 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago

Maduin :

The Lavender Beds, Ward 18, Plot 3 Large 47,500,000 11 Accepting Entries Individual 14 hours ago
The Lavender Beds, Ward 17, Plot 46 Medium 20,000,000 7 Accepting Entries Individual 23 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 16, Plot 43 Large 42,500,000 6 Accepting Entries Individual 2 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 18, Plot 30 Large 47,500,000 6 Accepting Entries Individual 5 minutes ago
Empyreum, Ward 13, Plot 52 Large 47,500,000 6 Accepting Entries Individual 22 hours ago
Empyreum, Ward 18, Plot 52 Large 47,500,000 6 Accepting Entries Individual 22 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 21, Plot 19 Medium 20,000,000 5 Accepting Entries Individual 2 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 12, Plot 49 Medium 20,000,000 5 Accepting Entries Individual 2 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 24, Plot 1 Medium 20,000,000 4 Accepting Entries Individual 2 hours ago
Mist, Ward 10, Plot 59 Medium 17,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Individual 23 hours ago
Mist, Ward 16, Plot 1 Medium 19,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Individual 23 hours ago
Mist, Ward 18, Plot 31 Medium 19,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Individual 23 hours ago
Mist, Ward 12, Plot 1 Medium 19,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 23 hours ago
The Lavender Beds, Ward 15, Plot 27 Medium 19,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 23 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 12, Plot 13 Medium 17,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 2 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 24, Plot 13 Medium 17,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 2 hours ago
Empyreum, Ward 17, Plot 38 Medium 19,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 19 hours ago
Empyreum, Ward 17, Plot 47 Medium 18,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 19 hours ago
Mist, Ward 1, Plot 59 Medium 17,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Free Company 2 hours ago
Mist, Ward 4, Plot 7 Medium 16,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Free Company 2 days ago
Mist, Ward 8, Plot 44 Medium 17,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Free Company 2 days ago
Mist, Ward 13, Plot 14 Medium 17,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 23 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 16, Plot 34 Medium 19,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 2 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 20, Plot 12 Medium 16,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 2 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 21, Plot 55 Medium 16,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 2 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 24, Plot 34 Medium 19,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 20 minutes ago
Empyreum, Ward 3, Plot 37 Medium 19,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago
Mist, Ward 6, Plot 14 Medium 17,000,000 0 Unavailable Free Company 2 days ago
Mist, Ward 20, Plot 34 Medium 20,000,000 0 Unavailable Individual 23 hours ago
The Lavender Beds, Ward 3, Plot 1 Medium 18,000,000 0 Unavailable Free Company 2 days ago
The Lavender Beds, Ward 20, Plot 21 Medium 17,000,000 0 Unavailable Individual 23 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 12, Plot 4 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 2 minutes ago
The Goblet, Ward 20, Plot 42 Medium 16,000,000 0 Unavailable Individual 2 hours ago
The Goblet, Ward 21, Plot 41 Medium 16,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 5 minutes ago
The Goblet, Ward 24, Plot 41 Medium 16,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 4 minutes ago
Shirogane, Ward 19, Plot 54 Medium 19,000,000 0 Unavailable Individual 2 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 22, Plot 30 Large 45,000,000 0 Unavailable Individual 9 hours ago
Empyreum, Ward 4, Plot 47 Medium 18,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 2 days ago

Halicarnassus :

Mist, Ward 24, Plot 15 Large 47,500,000 18 Accepting Entries Individual 11 hours ago
Empyreum, Ward 23, Plot 30 Large 50,000,000 18 Accepting Entries Individual 3 hours ago
The Lavender Beds, Ward 15, Plot 1 Medium 18,000,000 11 Accepting Entries Individual 2 hours ago
Mist, Ward 9, Plot 6 Medium 20,000,000 10 Accepting Entries Free Company 1 day ago
Mist, Ward 16, Plot 36 Medium 20,000,000 10 Accepting Entries Individual 4 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 11, Plot 28 Medium 16,000,000 4 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago
Shirogane, Ward 17, Plot 19 Medium 20,000,000 4 Accepting Entries Individual 2 days ago
Empyreum, Ward 16, Plot 26 Medium 19,000,000 3 Accepting Entries Individual 2 days ago
Shirogane, Ward 15, Plot 15 Medium 18,000,000 2 Accepting Entries Individual 1 day ago
Empyreum, Ward 4, Plot 51 Medium 20,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Free Company 6 hours ago
Empyreum, Ward 21, Plot 18 Medium 17,000,000 1 Accepting Entries Individual 3 days ago
Mist, Ward 1, Plot 7 Medium 16,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Free Company 2 days ago
Mist, Ward 18, Plot 34 Medium 20,000,000 0 Unavailable Individual 12 hours ago
Mist, Ward 20, Plot 44 Medium 17,000,000 0 Unavailable Individual 12 hours ago
The Lavender Beds, Ward 14, Plot 3 Large 47,500,000 0 Unavailable Individual 2 hours ago
Shirogane, Ward 10, Plot 24 Medium 19,000,000 0 Accepting Entries Individual 3 days ago

Take in mind those are ONLY mediums and larges

The situation on EU with Alpha/Raiden and Phantom/Sagittarius is basically the same, its housing galore, but them multiowners stealing our houses !!! take it from them !!!

lmao

[Reinha]

Meanwhile people struggle to even get a small house personal on all but the lowest populated datacenters/new worlds.

"All but the lowest" meaning the 3 most overpopulated data centers in the game. People are only struggling to get personal housing on NA data centers Aether, Primal and Crystal. They are not struggling on Light, Chaos, Dynamis, Materia, Meteor, Mana, Gaia or Elemental. OCE and JP are still absolutely fine and in two weeks auto demo returns to EU with a backlog of abandoned houses since Dec 2021 (auto demo was only turned back on for a month this year and those houses still have 15 days on the timer).

[ZiraZ]

I do love all the people who own multiple houses in this thread huffing copium and trying to justify their hoarding of houses, you do make me laugh at your selfishness.

Where do you think you are m8?
Your thread got mentioned in the sub discord OP within hours of you posting it according to timestamps, it's gonna be nothing but gatekeeping from the usual echo chamber suspects with thousands of posts just in the housing subforum from now on.
right now they're on insult mode, just wait and see what happens when they switch to smug victim mode.

also I think subs should be removed from housing and added into the island sanctuary (after removing fight club)

[Stormpeaks]

Where do you think you are m8?
Your thread got mentioned in the sub discord OP within hours of you posting it according to timestamps, it's gonna be nothing but gatekeeping from the usual echo chamber suspects with thousands of posts just in the housing subforum from now on.
right now they're on insult mode, just wait and see what happens when they switch to smug victim mode.

also I think subs should be removed from housing and added into the island sanctuary (after removing fight club)

"insult mode" = providing you with evidence of the available housing in the game

alright my guy

I bring you facts, and you bring the crying, guess that's how it works.

[Archeron]

Where do you think you are m8?
Your thread got mentioned in the sub discord OP within hours of you posting it according to timestamps, it's gonna be nothing but gatekeeping from the usual echo chamber suspects with thousands of posts just in the housing subforum from now on.
right now they're on insult mode, just wait and see what happens when they switch to smug victim mode.

also I think subs should be removed from housing and added into the island sanctuary (after removing fight club)

Don't worry, Let them sling their insults and throw tempertantrums on whatever discords they like. I don't care what they have to say, anyone defending the hoarding of 8+ houses is huffing copium if they don't think they're being selfish.

Plenty of FC's have reasons Not to want to divide their community by relocating servers. Not everyone is going to be willing to leave all their associates behind so they can have an FC house on a DC they don't know anyone on. But of course a common theme with people on this forum is; "It's all about me, and not about thee." So please, continue justifying your ownership of 8 houses. With each offended reply, it reveals just how many people think they should be entitled to as many houses as they like.

I'm pretending that the Dynamis DC is a populated server, and pretending that Archeron thinks that Dynamis doesn't have enough housing hurr durr *huffs copium*