Crystaline Conflict is the worst

[Themarvin]

Which is why i would love to see a arena mode, like feast. Maybe with smaller groups. All for it.

And yes as i wrote before, there is wintrading atm. and blatant cheating too. The difference is that CC, despite having these troubles, is popular enough to allow people despite wintrading to play constantly. While feast was literally dead most of the time, be that cause of wintrading or no rewards, in my opinion it was a combination of both.

Not really most people that think they can rule the Ranked, and get smashed up good is mostly people that does not know their class/job and should had stayed in normal untill the grasp on it.

Yet have to see it, and people is more than happy to report in ranked, can assure you that.

[Themarvin]

I want:

- Solo queue to be left alone

- Solo ranked queue to be left alone

- SE to introduce an EXTRA!!! queue for groups (so one group vs another group)

- You to buy some glasses and learn how to read, i can help you with the latter if you want

Keep it as it is and long answer short, git gud... and nope it is not a harrashment, to do the extra mile does not help you alot if you don't put in the effort for it.

The only thing I can support is if you get like 30-50 wins in Crystalline unranked over a given time with a selected job, before being able to start on ranked at all and then you will only be able to join ranked with that job, you got through that keyhole.

That makes it that you need to work on it.

The rest is git gud.

[shadowclasper]

Honestly this could be fixed just by having a static queue and a random queue

[Ranaku]

Keep it as it is and long answer short, git gud... and nope it is not a harrashment, to do the extra mile does not help you alot if you don't put in the effort for it.

The only thing I can support is if you get like 30-50 wins in Crystalline unranked over a given time with a selected job, before being able to start on ranked at all and then you will only be able to join ranked with that job, you got through that keyhole.

That makes it that you need to work on it.

The rest is git gud.

I have, literally, no clue what you want to tell me. I literally wrote that it should stay as it is, yes. And SE to just add an extra option, the other solo matches wouldn't change a bit.

What needs to git gud is maybe your english cause i seriously can't see what you want to say with your post. Being good doesn't help you a lot when it comes to CC. Why do you think there is a person with 13 wins in the top 100 and then there is one with 400? The reason is cause your skill doesn't matter, you just need to get lucky with your teammates and you can get into crystal in 13 matches or you stay in bronze with hundreds of won matches cause you know, you can't do anything about the cards you are dealt by rng jesus.

[Themarvin]

I have, literally, no clue what you want to tell me. I literally wrote that it should stay as it is, yes. And SE to just add an extra option, the other solo matches wouldn't change a bit.

What needs to git gud is maybe your english cause i seriously can't see what you want to say with your post. Being good doesn't help you a lot when it comes to CC. Why do you think there is a person with 13 wins in the top 100 and then there is one with 400? The reason is cause your skill doesn't matter, you just need to get lucky with your teammates and you can get into crystal in 13 matches or you stay in bronze with hundreds of won matches cause you know, you can't do anything about the cards you are dealt by rng jesus.

If you want to excell in Frontline or Crystalline content, you need to dig deep into it and get good at it as well... does not matter if you are a bard or ninja... or blm or whatever, you need to get good at the content.

There is nothing wrong with PvP as it is, but the key trigger is most of all that you meet none AI opponents and some of them is way more unpredictable than others in a way it stings to be on the opposite team, stop creating problems there is not there.

What seem to scared from opponents rather than encountering them.

As for 'bad english' I am excused I speak a foreign language that is not supported by FFXIV, other than Novice Network, putting judgement on people alone based on use of language is direct harrashment or discrimination alone based on that.

You need to do quite the feat to become numer 1 in the ranked content, something YOU WILL not see in any of the PvE content to the same degree.

[Ranaku]

If you want to excell in Frontline or Crystalline content, you need to dig deep into it and get good at it as well... does not matter if you are a bard or ninja... or blm or whatever, you need to get good at the content.

There is nothing wrong with PvP as it is, but the key trigger is most of all that you meet none AI opponents and some of them is way more unpredictable than others in a way it stings to be on the opposite team, stop creating problems there is not there.

What seem to scared from opponents rather than encountering them.

As for 'bad english' I am excused I speak a foreign language that is not supported by FFXIV, other than Novice Network, putting judgement on people alone based on use of language is direct harrashment or discrimination alone based on that.

You need to do quite the feat to become numer 1 in the ranked content, something YOU WILL not see in any of the PvE content to the same degree.

Of course you need to get good, you are as much as a contribution to your team as any other player. And yes in some situations you can carry your team.

I for example do mostly double the kills/damage than all other players i am playing with. So i guess in my case the "git good" part is already solved one could say. Probably can still get better and i am always open to it and by no chance do i see myself as some pvp god. But it does show that skill is only a small part of CC.

And that you have to do "quite the feat" to become number 1 is a blatant lie. You have to get lucky. That is all. It's hilarious that you actually believe what you are saying.

Let's take the datacenter crystal, last season. Crystal ranks.

First place: 123 wins (hilarious number btw)
Second place: 316 wins
Third place: 89 wins
8. place: 265 wins

Second place got almost 3 times as much won matches as first place but is well second place. And you know why that is? The same reason third place is third place and not 8. place who got 3 times the amount of won matches. Cause it is about how many matches you win in succession and that needs not you being so git gud skilled pal it needs LUCK and LUCK alone. Get good teammates 13 times in a row, you got from bronze to crystal. Get shitty teammates 400 times in a row, guess you will never get into Crystal.

That is what CC ranked is atm, a rng slaughterfest where the group that has luck with their team gets the win. As much as i admire your naive belief that you can influence the outcome all by yourself, it is not the case as the numbers clearly show.

Edit: Also about your english, i also speak mainly a different language. What i was telling you is that you don't get your point across with how you write. At least i didn't get what point you are making. It's not about that you have some errors here and there, i have that too all the time. I would just like to understand what you want to say.

[Themarvin]

Of course you need to get good, you are as much as a contribution to your team as any other player. And yes in some situations you can carry your team.

I for example do mostly double the kills/damage than all other players i am playing with. So i guess in my case the "git good" part is already solved one could say. Probably can still get better and i am always open to it and by no chance do i see myself as some pvp god. But it does show that skill is only a small part of CC.

And that you have to do "quite the feat" to become number 1 is a blatant lie. You have to get lucky. That is all. It's hilarious that you actually believe what you are saying.

Let's take the datacenter crystal, last season. Crystal ranks.



That is what CC ranked is atm, a rng slaughterfest where the group that has luck with their team gets the win. As much as i admire your naive belief that you can influence the outcome all by yourself, it is not the case as the numbers clearly show.

If you don't Lose, you don't need many wins to get far, those statistics does not show how many times they lost... you can have a 1000 wins, but lost 2000 or more times and that will NOT put you as number one.

As for kills on other players or whatever, it is not taken into account, if it means your team be it crystalline or frontline or whatever have few kills compared to others and still winning the round, is based on you won by doing the objectives and lured the opposite forces into fighting each other.... or had people focus more on the player in crystalline conflict rather than having the crystal to your plus side.

Suite yourself, seen so many wanting to fight everyone on the other side of the map while I just spend the time moving the crystal towards the winning position.

as for CC, you really need to know your job in it, or you will get slaughtered, you wont get any benefit from ranked unless you know your job somewhat from eg. just doing CC normal mode.

Don't die in CC, you are worth more alive than dead, when it get sour just move away.... and if you drag opponents with you even better if you can dodge and use the clever end of the maps... also there is still people going to be number 1 in it, and blaming your team mates is plain stupid, for starters.. seen DRG's and SAMs and whatever class spam push the crystal when losing the map, and when you look at them, they are not doing their job at all and think they can be carried... can't use raged people at all in CC, especially when the problem remain with them and if they spam = reported after the match.

Don't lose is the key factor and YES it is quite the feat to almost never lose a game and one of the things bounds in strategy and being able to hand it to your team mates.

[Ranaku]

You literally described the problem.

Someone can win a thousand times and get nowhere, maybe they lost a couple thousand matches. But it doesn't say anything about their personal skill, they could be the best pvp player in the world if all 4 mates of his team stay in spawn and afk he will never win. That is the state of pvp.

So explain to me how it is fair to have someone who just got lucky at spot 1 and people who try and try but fail cause of bad luck are pushed back into bronze? What is fun about that? Have 30 bad matches and you go from crystal back to bronze.

This is not a good system, it favors the ones who just get lucky and punishes those who put actually work into it.

[Themarvin]

You literally described the problem.

Someone can win a thousand times and get nowhere, maybe they lost a couple thousand matches. But it doesn't say anything about their personal skill, they could be the best pvp player in the world if all 4 mates of his team stay in spawn and afk he will never win. That is the state of pvp.

So explain to me how it is fair to have someone who just got lucky at spot 1 and people who try and try but fail cause of bad luck are pushed back into bronze? What is fun about that? Have 30 bad matches and you go from crystal back to bronze.

This is not a good system, it favors the ones who just get lucky and punishes those who put actually work into it.

Not really, you lose you wont gain rank and you will lost points in the top and not gain them...

If you can't see the system for you, then it means that if you play 1000 matches would not make you able to beat one that has done less and not lost or rarely losing... calculate the ratios...

As I say CC ONLY SHOW wins... they don't show the actually lost matches, and you should not just be able to win with 3000 lost matches and 700 won... it would make little sense at all and it burst the bubble that more is not better if you suck at what you do.

This not like Collecting PvE things that you could do in Eureka nonestop with the Ishgaard building project before we got Ishgaard Housing.

EDIT: If the 4 people stay in spawn or on purpose lose, they can get into serious trouble, and the loss if reported in would be pulled back, so please just stop, this closer you get to the top, this more you have to lose, and also at the top, you can't afford not giving your best.

[Thurmnmurmn]

You literally described the problem.

Someone can win a thousand times and get nowhere, maybe they lost a couple thousand matches. But it doesn't say anything about their personal skill, they could be the best pvp player in the world if all 4 mates of his team stay in spawn and afk he will never win. That is the state of pvp.

So explain to me how it is fair to have someone who just got lucky at spot 1 and people who try and try but fail cause of bad luck are pushed back into bronze? What is fun about that? Have 30 bad matches and you go from crystal back to bronze.

This is not a good system, it favors the ones who just get lucky and punishes those who put actually work into it.

You see it as luck. We all see it as skill. The ability to communicate with your teammates with the limited chat is a pretty big factor in climbing as well. Or at least that's from my experience in earlier seasons (I haven't been in there much lately).

That's something else I thought about. As it is right now, we can't communicate normally in groups. If they were to do premades or duo/trio queues, they would need to remove the limited chat because that ruins the point of being grouped. You would essentially rely on VC outside of the game to communicate.
So before anything I would suggest looking into how the game would look like without the chat restrictions. But we all know SE don't wanna do that.