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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    Just accept that premades won't be joining CC for the forseeable future. It benefits nobody except the selfish players who want to curb stomp solo queue players so they can get their series XP grind done efficiently.

    Or like, you know, people who want to play with their friends in an MMO. Basically the entire point of the genre.

    I think it's very obvious most of the people here have legitimately never done any other competitive game in their life. if it were functioning correctly (and it's not, so it's another SE problem because they designed the ranking system poorly) the matchmaking system would very quickly throw people who are stomping randoms into games with really good players and it wouldn't be one sided anymore. That's supposed to be the actual function of a ranking/matchmaking system: To determine your personal/group skill level and match you in a way you'll win about 50% of your games.

    But yeah, if you want your game mode to be dead, keep it so people can't play with others. SE is just wasting dev time doing basically anything else until they change it, barring the first few weeks or so when people just play for rewards and then never touch it for 4-5 months.

    Riddle me this: if the way you're supposed to play CC is truly with completely random people, why is SE hosting official tournaments with full premades? They could've totally drawn random people to play in groups of 5.
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    Last edited by Arzalis; 06-06-2023 at 07:58 AM.

  2. #52
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    TomsYoungerBro's Avatar
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    Pre-mades should be allowed in the casual mode for sure. If they want to keep ranked solo queue only thats fine
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    Just accept that premades won't be joining CC for the forseeable future. It benefits nobody except the selfish players who want to curb stomp solo queue players so they can get their series XP grind done efficiently.
    Aint no one needing groups to grind the series XP. I'm literally already done with it.

    Also, the only ones being "selfish" are loners like you.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arzalis View Post
    Or like, you know, people who want to play with their friends in an MMO. Basically the entire point of the genre.

    I think it's very obvious most of the people here have legitimately never done any other competitive game in their life. if it were functioning correctly (and it's not, so it's another SE problem because they designed the ranking system poorly) the matchmaking system would very quickly throw people who are stomping randoms into games with really good players and it wouldn't be one sided anymore. That's supposed to be the actual function of a ranking/matchmaking system: To determine your personal/group skill level and match you in a way you'll win about 50% of your games.

    But yeah, if you want your game mode to be dead, keep it so people can't play with others. SE is just wasting dev time doing basically anything else until they change it, barring the first few weeks or so when people just play for rewards and then never touch it for 4-5 months.

    Riddle me this: if the way you're supposed to play CC is truly with completely random people, why is SE hosting official tournaments with full premades? They could've totally drawn random people to play in groups of 5.
    I'm just going to ignore your ridiculous assumption that nobody here plays competitive games.

    First, how is CC dying? Explain. Because I can queue into casual at all hours of the day, even ranked sometimes. If you want to implement a ranked system, fine, combine casual and ranked CC. But I still dont want premades, and again, How is square going to competently introduce a match making system given their track record with PvP over the past year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Aint no one needing groups to grind the series XP. I'm literally already done with it.

    Also, the only ones being "selfish" are loners like you.
    I don't care about you, or what you're doing in series XP, or honestly about your blockhead takes. You already proved in other threads that you don't care about other people in PvP. You only care about what you want, at the expense of everyone else who you claim is a "selfish loner" because they don't want to play premades, or who you think has a "skill issue" or is "bad at PvP". I'll put in a good word at the circus for you. They could use more clowns.
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    Last edited by Archeron; 06-06-2023 at 09:02 AM.

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    There's no reason to not have the ability to group up, at least in Casual Mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    Well, it's pretty obvious that your lack of skill and sportsmanship in competitive modes has left you bitter and insecure enough to make baseless assumptions about me.
    well, it's pretty obvious that you both are pretty obvious.
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  7. #57
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    Couldn't help myself.. xD


    On point of thread- a) I don't think SE has a big enough player pool to offer quality match making filters beyond the most generic ranked filters without costing a decent amount of extra lag time and b) watching how many people mistook OP demanding the normal queue change has been a sort of bingo game..
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    Casual should be open for groups, its results are irrelevant and it already mixes top 100 with first timers.

    Ranked should stay Solo, want to avoid groups and have bit more balanced matches? Queue Ranked to play with others on similar percieved skill level and no group advantage.

    Easy enough, but for some reason people think Ranked is a stressful boogeyman. It's already more balanced and fair to lower ranks than Casual is and the level of play is lower until mid/high ranks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4clubbedace View Post
    Casual shoul let duos or trios. Ranked should remain solo q tho
    That is something i am actually against, duos could be fine but trios can easily focus enemy players down one by one. Which would be a really unfair advantage.

    I would leave solo queue as it is, for people who just want to play with randoms. Everything else would ruin the fun for others.

    Would like to see an arena mode tho where it is just 2vs2 or 3vs3. But ofc then SE would have to really balance the jobs and create something that can actually kill a good whitemage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    That is something i am actually against, duos could be fine but trios can easily focus enemy players down one by one. Which would be a really unfair advantage.

    I would leave solo queue as it is, for people who just want to play with randoms. Everything else would ruin the fun for others.

    Would like to see an arena mode tho where it is just 2vs2 or 3vs3. But ofc then SE would have to really balance the jobs and create something that can actually kill a good whitemage.
    People didn't read your post, you get called out for asking to want to take over solo queue, then you get suggested to partially take over solo queue and choose to defend the originally posted idea that it would probably be better not to take over solo queue.



    Just enjoying the consistency through adversity and support


    Arenas could be cool, I imagine they would do better if they are via phases or tournaments or something on a schedule in order to reduce the player divide in queues. I don't have the data but a 5 minute average queue for PvP is pretty great, if they can keep that then whatever.. ignore me lol. If they can't then scheduling arenas might work. Though one thing I hope they can avoid is sequestering unique rewards /only/ behind cycling content. I don't like leaderboards in general but I could see cool reward that is signature to the winning players, but then later releasing a non-signature slightly name changed variant of the armor (I'm not really a believer in exclusive stuff, just seems like a huge waste, but timed exclusive or honorifics in item names is fine).
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