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  1. #41
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    At least allow it for casual matches first.
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  2. #42
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    At least allow it for casual matches first.
    Or dont allow it at all, CC casual games are fun because they are not party based, if you start putting in parties in there it's ruined, if you want premade vs premade though have at it, enjoy the hour long queue because no one will bother
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  3. #43
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Or dont allow it at all, CC casual games are fun because they are not party based, if you start putting in parties in there it's ruined, if you want premade vs premade though have at it, enjoy the hour long queue because no one will bother
    I have matches with nearly 20 kills in casual. How is allowing me to group up with 1 or 2 friends (who are not even pvpers) going to change anything? Casual has no matchmaking and the matches are wildly unbalanced due to its open nature. Just let us play with friends. Aint no one "premading" (I'm sick of people considering a group of 2 or 3 as a premade) into casuals taking those matches seriously.
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  4. #44
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    Themarvin's Avatar
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    Kurotora Iga
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    For the love of Hydaelyn SE, let us group up with friends.

    And if you care about "unfair" groups who coordinate and don't just run out of spawn, one by one, into their death then make it another option, like with ranked and unranked.

    It blows my mind how SE can make a actually fun PVP experience and then totally ruin it by throwing random people together and calling it a day. And now we just roll a dice at the start of each match and the team with the least braindead players win, personal skill doesn't matter.

    It's hilarious how easily this could be fixed, i have no clue what SE is scared of but we are now so many seasons into the new PVP and they haven't even addressed it.
    Here is the deal... someone get into top 100 with it, get gud...

    Don't play Ranked if you can't handle it.
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  5. #45
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    Deedlit Parn
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    Ultros
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    Archer Lv 100
    People already do this all the time is casual. They sync queue with friends, then throw if they get put opposite. It's really fun for everyone involved.
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  6. #46
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deedlit View Post
    People already do this all the time is casual. They sync queue with friends, then throw if they get put opposite. It's really fun for everyone involved.
    My FC doesn't do this, we go all out.
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  7. #47
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    Aelin Ashriver
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    Monk Lv 100
    I too feel the suffering when you are stuck with players without hands in CC. I would love to play with my friends, why they don't just have the matchmaking put premades against each other idk. It's a fun game mode and those times we can queue up and get put together or even vs each other it's really fun. It's misery playing with people who don't try at all.

    It's utterly infuriating to see someone with 0 healing done and 20k damage if you're lucky. Quite frankly they should be reportable for afk since to me it's just them blatantly doing sweet F all to farm exp for the pass and nothing more. They move around to not get booted and that is literally it. That is more toxic than someone who is actually trying and getting a bit salty imo. At least they are trying to win in a competitive mode vs the afk leech farming their pass exp.
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  8. #48
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    Mistress_Irika's Avatar
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    Ophelia Irika
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Queues for ranked are already long enough as it is, stop trying to kill the PVP of this game, and casual is fine as it is as well, it's fair the way it is, and if they add a "premade vs premade" system, it would never pop, so no its not viable.
    Unless they have it to where you can queue custom games undersized custom games aren't viable either. Except for those that are currently scrimming for the upcoming tournamens or for those that are running their own tournaments what 2/3/4 person group is going to wait for a big group to do a couple to a few games at most? It's easier to get a group together for a savage raid than it is to get 2 small group together for a couple of CC games.
    Very concerning that pvp has to be a very restrictive compared to pve for the sake of "fun".
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  9. #49
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    Edwin Vancleef
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    Golem
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    Ninja Lv 97
    Just accept that premades won't be joining CC for the forseeable future. It benefits nobody except the selfish players who want to curb stomp solo queue players so they can get their series XP grind done efficiently.

    Premade vs Premade queues will take forever, the only solution to fix a queue problem would be to pit them against nothing but pure solo players. That puts the solo players at a disadvantage because the premade players will more then likely be communicating on discord rather than with crappy chat commands.

    Premade compositions will not be fun to play against. It will be about as fun as fighting a DRK premade in frontlines, and while its possible to get some whack compositions currently in CC if premades were allowed it would be full to the rafters with them. Give the PvP community an inch, and they'll take a mile.

    "But my team could suck at the game!" Then why aren't you asking for a PvP tutorial to be implemented? Do you think new players are likely to want to continue doing PvP if they just get curb stomped at every available oppurtunity?

    "It's not fun." Go queue with your friends in frontlines. Nobody is stopping you. Or is it because frontlines isn't fun? Maybe we should also be pushing them to make frontlines a fun game mode too.

    "Casual CC doesn't matter." So we should just implement changes that make it worse as a whole for the community at large, who either; Don't have friends that like PvP, or Don't have friends to PvP with. Do you think that premades are going to increase the participation in PvP at large? I don't.

    I strongly think that a seperate mode for premade vs premade should exist instead, perhaps allow people to create custom games. Ruining casual CC isn't the solution, and asking square to implement premades into PvP competently, given their current track record with PvP changes is nothing short of huffing a large dose of copium.
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  10. #50
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    4clubbedace's Avatar
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    Viorel Amala
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Casual shoul let duos or trios. Ranked should remain solo q tho
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