Crystaline Conflict is the worst

[Bellsong]

People really out here acting like 1 or 2 good players can't just turn games into stomps in a 5v5 anyways :v


Put premades vs premades, inflate premades rating so they eventually end up just fighting other good premades, only allow duo groups. PvP games have been working on solutions and compromises so friends can play together without consistently stomping randos every single game for ages.

But why bother with that I suppose when SE just wants to treat PvP like a PvE mode.

[Shougun]

People really out here acting like 1 or 2 good players can't just turn games into stomps in a 5v5 anyways :v

Yeah but 5 okay players is stronger than 1 fantastic player, if they're working together. Certainly 5 good players, which is entirely possible given people of like minds would be queueing, would definitely stomp a group of mixed players without coordination.

I mean.. sure your point that one player can mean a lot .. can mean a lot, but that math doesn't change with the additional variable of increased teamwork. Therefore consistently the group will win because they've an advantage (substantial if they're skilled and using powerful communication methods, like voice chat).

All of to say my point for OP remains, not changing stances- they want a queue dedicated to preforms.. that seems fair. But if you allowed preforms with randoms, it will cause repeatable and consistent imbalances that will clearly lean towards the preform. It's not some unknown or inconsistent math, if you allowed it then it would be preforms regularly destroying those who are not.