Zeromus

[Atelier-Bagur]

Instead of cheesy fan service / recyclin old stuff, wish we had brand new foes. Would have been nice. Whole void arc after Barba got stale.

They probably didnt want to introduce anyone big in 6.X just so that theyre done within those patches, so they settled on making the 13th be a reflection of FFIV and its characters. Considering that FFXIV recycles almost everything from past FFs down right to their names and appearances, it seems very fitting.

Only people having an issue with the FFIV callbacks are those who have been somehow ignorant over the past 10 years of lore in this game only just now realizing that they have been doing this.

As a FFIV fan, Im totally fine with them doing it as theyve already done so before with numerous other FF callbacks in this games lore.

Its supposed to be a FF series themepark after all, even Hironoubu Sakaguchi praises it for being such and I think thats fine.

[CStrife912]

They probably didnt want to introduce anyone big in 6.X just so that theyre done within those patches, so they settled on making the 13th be a reflection of FFIV and its characters. Considering that FFXIV recycles almost everything from past FFs down right to their names and appearances, it seems very fitting.

Only people having an issue with the FFIV callbacks are those who have been somehow ignorant over the past 10 years of lore in this game only just now realizing that they have been doing this.

As a FFIV fan, Im totally fine with them doing it as theyve already done so before with numerous other FF callbacks in this games lore.

Its supposed to be a FF series themepark after all, even Hironoubu Sakaguchi praises it for being such and I think thats fine.

Also anyone who even remotely says FF4 handles the archfiends better is outright lying...they had barely any screen time and FF14 has done way more with them even with still limited screen time. Its too soon to even comment on what they do with Zeromus but as usual troll guy has to moan or bait something. So I will see whatever they do in 6.5 because even the Golbez change was a surprise with it not actually being him. Making use of the shadow dragon as a sort of sacrifice as well was a better touch because in FF4 Zeromus is far less conceived, just really appears 'Oh no the body of Zemus has died now his hatred just manifests as this more powerful form' So until then I can't make judgement on whats transpired, like his design so far though.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Also anyone who even remotely says FF4 handles the archfiends better is outright lying...they had barely any screen time and FF14 has done way more with them even with still limited screen time. Its too soon to even comment on what they do with Zeromus but as usual troll guy has to moan or bait something. So I will see whatever they do in 6.5 because even the Golbez change was a surprise with it not actually being him. Making use of the shadow dragon as a sort of sacrifice as well was a better touch because in FF4 Zeromus is far less conceived, just really appears 'Oh no the body of Zemus has died now his hatred just manifests as this more powerful form' So until then I can't make judgement on whats transpired, like his design so far though.

I remember making this point back on a thread during 6.2 about the use of the Fiends. Yeah people forget that theyre barely characters in OG FFIV. Literally the first 3 of the fiends show up and die at their first introduction. Its actually comical how underplayed they were in FFIV. True, theyre also underplayed somewhat in FFXIV as well but at least they get some more nuance, background and screentime compared to the original. And thats pretty much all they needed to be imo

[TheMightyMollusk]

I wonder if there were similar reactions to the Warring Triad back in Heavensward. Despite their original versions being so underplayed that they didn't even have names in-game, just the Fiend/Demon/Goddess titles.

[Vyrerus]

I wonder if there were similar reactions to the Warring Triad back in Heavensward. Despite their original versions being so underplayed that they didn't even have names in-game, just the Fiend/Demon/Goddess titles.

I don't know about here on the forums, but I loved those fights in Heavensward. Seeing the Gods that created magic in HD 3-D with high details was amazing. Their lore has primals was also adequate and interesting to me. Also Elidibus said they were world ending threats through Unukulhai. Though I do still WTF at Sephirot's powers being altered to be earth/tree themed when he was the ice one. "You'd best be frozen."

And that said, I've loved these FFXIV renditions of the fiends, though Milon's seemed a tad weak to me. He was a jacked giant zombie in the OG that inspired fear in me as a kid. XIV's was more goblin canker sore gremlin.

Everyone I played with back in HW loved the Triad too, though I know for a fact not a lot of them were VI fans anyway, though some were.

As far as XIV Zeromus goes, there's nothing to be disappointed by yet imo. Like actual Zeromus, his true form hasn't been revealed, but they did call attention to detail in that he's likely going to be undone by a crystal. (I imagine Golbez's actual soul will manifest and hold him back at just the right moment).

I'm actually hoping for some sort of mash up between his three different appearances over the years. Minus the silly sword he has in the Easy Type variant.

I want the crab claw from 12, the eldritch horror from IV, and the tail from easy type all mashed into one. Hell, they could lift Barubary's appearance from Breath of Fire 2, and I'd be on board.

[XianRo]

My issue with the entire post 6.0 msq is that it feels remarkably lazy to make an entire games plotline the msq rather than be a trial sidequest series or something.
It really smacks of "we dk where to go with the story pre-7.0 so uuuuh" its just very obvious.
Im totally expecting the real Golbez who died to be a shard of Azem OH WOOOOAH which also sucks. At least Ardbert was an original character for this setting even he was generic login create your character middy.
The upside, I hope, is maybe Zeromus EG will be a phase two for the extreme fight. Thatd be cool ig. I was so disappointed with golbez weapon designs I hope zeromus weapons are better (tho considering they'll be ilv655 even normie players will not be using them anyway when you can augment tome weapons or get your relic to ilv665 in 6.55 :/)

[Themarvin]

maybe because FFIV was outdated old old GFX and that you cannot live in the past.... like it as it is.... or don't

Always complainst from people not appreciating what they got.