Ranked is mega unpopular even though it offers the same rewards as Unranked

[Archeron]

They don't moderate Ranked enough to make it attractive for any of the casual players. Sure you can blacklist people, they're still going to ping you, still going to put "target to ignore" icons on their own team members, and be a nuissance as a whole. Combine that with newer players trying the game mode out. They're not going to queue again for it. The general consesus by the community is that PvP is bad, and they don't play it, and don't want to even if key issues are fixed. As for the people who DO pvp when its fun ranked;

Does not offer much, if any more rewards than just doing Frontlines, or Casual CC.

Is far more toxic than FL/Casual CC. People more often will harass you outside of matches because they think you cost them a game/ranks.

Queue takes too long, because there is no incentive to queue ranked several weeks into the patch.

Adventure plate frames aren't very attractive. Most people don't care about flexing their PvP skills on their adventure plate.

Sell me on ranked. Why should I care about it? Wheres my incentive to play it? Why should I care about Ranked CC when compared to anything else I could be spending my time on FFXIV in?

[Towa-Musa]

They don't moderate Ranked enough to make it attractive for any of the casual players. Sure you can blacklist people, they're still going to ping you, still going to put "target to ignore" icons on their own team members, and be a nuissance as a whole. Combine that with newer players trying the game mode out. They're not going to queue again for it. The general consesus by the community is that PvP is bad, and they don't play it, and don't want to even if key issues are fixed. As for the people who DO pvp when its fun ranked;

Does not offer much, if any more rewards than just doing Frontlines, or Casual CC.

Is far more toxic than FL/Casual CC. People more often will harass you outside of matches because they think you cost them a game/ranks.

Queue takes too long, because there is no incentive to queue ranked several weeks into the patch.

Adventure plate frames aren't very attractive. Most people don't care about flexing their PvP skills on their adventure plate.

Sell me on ranked. Why should I care about it? Wheres my incentive to play it? Why should I care about Ranked CC when compared to anything else I could be spending my time on FFXIV in?

there is no incentive and ppl think making ranked exclusive rewards a thing again is gonna change the fact that ppl hate ranked, its not fun.

[TsunaYoshi]

All i have to say to this topic. Ranked Player are there own cheating and win trading grp and pretty toxic. so why deal with them. Dont give ranked rewards, just leave them be toxic in there own box and all is fine.

[Towa-Musa]

All i have to say to this topic. Ranked Player are there own cheating and win trading grp and pretty toxic. so why deal with them. Dont give ranked rewards, just leave them be toxic in there own box and all is fine.

Yeah, i agree with this for the most part.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

All i have to say to this topic. Ranked Player are there own cheating and win trading grp and pretty toxic. so why deal with them. Dont give ranked rewards, just leave them be toxic in there own box and all is fine.

"All" ranked players? Sigh... isn't this gross generalisation that we generally should avoid?

[ThaCa]

Based on my experience, at least on Light I don't know much about cheaters or wintrading. There was a suspicious WHM like a Season or two back with ridiculous Miracle of Nature timings though. Toxicity varies, there's few salt bags but they also might be egging each other instead of just general raging.

I had more people chat spam and mark people in Plat and Casual than in Crystal. But this is all anecdotal, so I might be straight up wrong.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Based on my experience, at least on Light I don't know much about cheaters or wintrading. There was a suspicious WHM like a Season or two back with ridiculous Miracle of Nature timings though. Toxicity varies, there's few salt bags but they also might be egging each other instead of just general raging.

I had more people chat spam and mark people in Plat and Casual than in Crystal. But this is all anecdotal, so I might be straight up wrong.

Light Casual IS weird, yeah. Playing that often, there is some whackness in there.

Also : peeposmile: Light Ranked having a redeeming quality for once. Bless.

[Elfidan]

All i have to say to this topic. Ranked Player are there own cheating and win trading grp and pretty toxic.

Well damn you said it so it must be true. Not like people can just be better or worse than others I suppose. Come to think of it Towa is platinum this season and thus a ranked player. Did you cheat Towa? When was your induction into the secret brotherhood of anything for pixels?

[RajNish]

All i have to say to this topic. Ranked Player are there own cheating and win trading grp and pretty toxic. so why deal with them. Dont give ranked rewards, just leave them be toxic in there own box and all is fine.

Change "ranked players" to "savage raid players" and you'll hear the same song. It's just that there are a number of toxic players everywhere, in the whole game, in every game. Sometimes these toxic players play the same game modes as you. Why are they more visible? Because more screaming or doing something that annoys everyone. Is that why you don't pay attention to players who are just doing their job and who are good to play with? Because they are commonplace.

Why does the percentage of toxic players seem to be higher? Because this is basically a competitive game, and you understand that for them it is a matter of self-affirmation. But haven't you met people in an ordinary dungeon with a dps meter? It's the same type of players by the way.

So no, your selection is wrong. In simple terms, it's just that there is some amount of shit on the servers that pops up here and there and ruins your gaming evening. So it would be better to say "Collect all the shit in a separate game or on a separate server" but it doesn't happen, we don't have a shit meter yet.

[RajNish]

Is far more toxic than FL/Casual CC. People more often will harass you outside of matches because they think you cost them a game/ranks.

I will not quote my own post above, I think there is enough. I’ll just add for you on my data center in casual and in ranked these are the same players. So it makes no difference to me where they pop up. The only difference I see is that there is no wintrade in casual. But when toxic players come to "warm up" in casual, they throw the same tantrum in the chat with those damned automatic messages and markers.

As for being harassed, I've been through that too, and it's after a casual game. The reports don't help at all, so I just added this player to the black list and leave the group when he is on my team. I don't care about penalties. The real problems of ranked games are matchmaking, attracting a player base, rewards and the game system itself.