Crystalline Conflict Party (with Friends) Request:

[Ransu]

Or, they could just allow duo/trio in casual queue because the idea of a 2 or 3 man group being a "premade" is ridiculous. Who fills the other slots in a "group only" queue? You already have people going into casual easily getting 15+ kills. Adding in a duo queue isn't going to change anything.

[Archeron]

Or, they could just allow duo/trio in casual queue because the idea of a 2 or 3 man group being a "premade" is ridiculous. Who fills the other slots in a "group only" queue? You already have people going into casual easily getting 15+ kills. Adding in a duo queue isn't going to change anything.

You make zero attempt to understand why people don't want premades in casual whatsoever. "Oh one person can just get 15 kills and stomp casual, so lets let 2 or 3 people do it. I wonder what the consequences of that will be! Oh wait it doesn't matter, because its only casual. I'm sure people will keep queueing for casual if they can expect to get stomped by a coordinated party of 2-3 people in every single game they queue for." Get your head out of the sand.

[Ransu]

You make zero attempt to understand why people don't want premades in casual whatsoever. "Oh one person can just get 15 kills and stomp casual, so lets let 2 or 3 people do it. I wonder what the consequences of that will be! Oh wait it doesn't matter, because its only casual. I'm sure people will keep queueing for casual if they can expect to get stomped by a coordinated party of 2-3 people in every single game they queue for." Get your head out of the sand.

Or its just bad players like you constantly crying over literally nothing. SWTOR allowed 4 man premades into warzones from day one and despite all the crying by certain groups its outright never been an issue. I solo queue 90% of the time when playing and I still win more than I lose even against "premades" (half a team isn't a premade).

Casual queue doesn't have matchmaking. People in a two man group changes nothing because the skill range is still going to be all over the place. I'll say it again, if you care that much about a "fair" match then play RANKED. Casual is casual, stop caring about the match outcome in a mode that doesn't matter.

[Archeron]

Or its just bad players like you constantly crying over literally nothing. SWTOR allowed 4 man premades into warzones from day one and despite all the crying by certain groups its outright never been an issue. I solo queue 90% of the time when playing and I still win more than I lose even against "premades" (half a team isn't a premade).

Casual queue doesn't have matchmaking. People in a two man group changes nothing because the skill range is still going to be all over the place. I'll say it again, if you care that much about a "fair" match then play RANKED. Casual is casual, stop caring about the match outcome in a mode that doesn't matter.

Resorting to petty insults as usual, because you have no arguement. Very classy. The only bad player is the one who doesn't care about fairness in PvP - Which would be you.

Casuals skill range being all over the place is perfectly fine. It still results in a 50/50 winrate, changing based on YOUR PERSONAL SKILL. What happens when you throw a 2/3 man coordinated premade party against 5 people who;

Can't use chat.

Can't communicate over discord.

Are completely unfamiliar with each other.

They get stomped. Do you think people would queue into CC so they can feed premade parties all the series XP and wolf marks they like? Does that sound like fun? If it's not fun, then The core arguement of casual doesn't matter, doesn't exist. If its not fun, nobody is going to play it. If you're the only person having fun, that makes you a narcissist who has no regard for anyone else in the community but himself. My solution is easy. Implement a seperate PvP mode that throws 2/3 man parties against each other. You on the otherhand, provide no solutions, no compromise to the people who want to queue against other randomly match parties and not a premade which rigs the odds against them, every single time.

[Ransu]

Because there is no solution or compromise necessary. Its literally just casual. Run in and have fun and stop caring about the outcome because God forbid people play with there friends in CASUAL mode. Again, if you cared at all about "fair" matches you'd play ranked, but nah you just complain about "sweats" instead in ranked mode.

[Archeron]

Because there is no solution or compromise necessary. Its literally just casual. Run in and have fun and stop caring about the outcome because God forbid people play with there friends in CASUAL mode. Again, if you cared at all about "fair" matches you'd play ranked, but nah you just complain about "sweats" instead in ranked mode.

Yet again ignoring all of my points, as to be expected from Ransu. Explain how a 2/3 man premade would be fun to play against as a solo queue player. If it's not fun then your point has been proven wrong.

What if I don't want to play ranked? What If I want to play a job I'm not familiar with, that won't cost me ranks? Should I just submit myself to the premade party pummeling? Should I just take my job to frontlines where I won't learn how to properly use it in a CC environment? Nope. Apparently its just "You're bad. Go play duh ranked mode hurr durr."

[Ransu]

You don't have any points, you're literally just complaining about nothing. A 2/3 man "premade" (lmao) will literally change nothing in how wildly scattered casuals matches are. Every casual match is either a stomping or getting stomped. Adding in a premade won't change that. You could also do this thing called make friends and group up with them.

[ThaCa]

Yet again ignoring all of my points, as to be expected from Ransu. Explain how a 2/3 man premade would be fun to play against as a solo queue player. If it's not fun then your point has been proven wrong.

What if I don't want to play ranked? What If I want to play a job I'm not familiar with, that won't cost me ranks? Should I just submit myself to the premade party pummeling? Should I just take my job to frontlines where I won't learn how to properly use it in a CC environment? Nope. Apparently its just "You're bad. Go play duh ranked mode hurr durr."

Stomping people with same last name in same team is already more fun than beating random names. If they are actually good then that's just business as usual in Casual coinflip.

[Archeron]

You don't have any points, you're literally just complaining about nothing. A 2/3 man "premade" (lmao) will literally change nothing in how wildly scattered casuals matches are. Every casual match is either a stomping or getting stomped. Adding in a premade won't change that. You could also do this thing called make friends and group up with them.

Always about the friends. Maybe you should seek a therapist, and stop projecting your insecurities about your relationships with others onto me. I pity someone like you who isn't capable of self reflection.

I'm done with you, and your blockhead takes. You're clearly lacking reading comprehension, or the ability to use your brain to contemplate whether or not anyone would find it fun to play against a premade as a solo queue player.

[Ransu]

Always about the friends. Maybe you should seek a therapist, and stop projecting your insecurities about your relationships with others onto me. I pity someone like you who isn't capable of self reflection.

I'm done with you, and your blockhead takes. You're clearly lacking reading comprehension, or the ability to use your brain to contemplate whether or not anyone would find it fun to play against a premade as a solo queue player.

Of course its about friends...that's the entire damn point is to have fun playing with friends. I really don't care about your whining about "premades" in casuals. The same people that cry about "premades" are the same people that do 100k damage and die 6 times.