Quote Originally Posted by Nubrication View Post
Shatter is a PvE mode. There wasn’t actual PVP in shatter for a long time now. I think stormblood was the last time people actually “pvp’d” in shatter.
Maybe things were like that on your datacenter, but on Primal, even before the whole PvP rework we got in EW (aka way bf smn/drk/drg LB stacking where a thing), a team could easily win by doing pvp only.



On topic: I'm all in for the map be reverted back, the new map is horrible in so many levels compared to the previous version, not just the constant ice spawning but also how tanky they are now for no reason, stalling the match more than needed. No escape routes for all teams on each big ice at the corners, and for last, the walls around the big ice on middle being more a hindrance than a good thing.