Revert Shatter back to the Original Map

[ThaCa]

Biggest issue with map is that people don't even understand the objectives. Small ices are more of a distraction and could be easily handled by a player or two, but I keep seeing whole teams training from one small to another while completely ignoring everything else and therefore losing with like 1/3 of the points from the leading team. The teams that go for fights at big ice and prioritize kills win the game majority of the time.

I guess the map could be somewhat salvaged from lack of player insight by tweaking the spawn intervals and locations.

[Archeron]

Biggest issue with map is that people don't even understand the objectives. Small ices are more of a distraction and could be easily handled by a player or two, but I keep seeing whole teams training from one small to another while completely ignoring everything else and therefore losing with like 1/3 of the points from the leading team. The teams that go for fights at big ice and prioritize kills win the game majority of the time.

I guess the map could be somewhat salvaged from lack of player insight by tweaking the spawn intervals and locations.

I don't think even with a tweak that Shatter will be fixed, it'll take a whole rework - I'd rather the old map be reintroduced personally. I'd make big ice nodes have 3x ramps, Small ice nodes become 1 time spawns, big ice nodes spawn less frequently - You've essentially reintroduced the rules of Old shatter by that point.

[Seban_]

I'd make big ice nodes have 3x ramps,

I still don't like the idea of three generic ramps/entrances. If they changed the cliff to a switch back ramp that would allow accessibility, a route of retreat that has choke potential, and still maintain terrain "interest". They've already troweled the map into a boring oblivion but I feel like that would make it worse.

It's sad because this was my second favourite map to play (after Onsal). I do like the idea of a task that gives casual pve kiddos something to do to wet their feet until they get comfortable engaging other players, but this current system is a crutch that just hurts the people that know what they are doing and enjoy pvp. It's like trying to wall pull and getting stomped with a healer that still uses cure/benefick 1; just a noob trap that makes everyone suffer.

I queued today without paying attention and had immediate disappointment to discover today is shatter. I vented my frustration in /fc, and had a member comment that the queue on shatter days is markedly and consistently higher than others; maybe if they don't listen to player feedback they are looking at the participation data and with the dip realizing how badly they messed up.