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  1. #21
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    Archeron's Avatar
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    Edwin Vancleef
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    If it was supposed to be relevant and/or funny, an insult clearly wouldn't be appropriate. Flaming people and goading them into flaming back is something a troll would do anyway.
    I agree that throwing insults around isn't productive. However, it's clear that your attempts at humor and wit have fallen flat. Maybe it's better for everyone if you stick to being silent, and keeping your unhelpful off topic snarky comments out of this thread.
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  2. #22
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    Edwin Vancleef
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    (Two posts ago)

    And regardless of any alleged attempt at humor, you still didn't use the word correctly.
    I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where I asked for your unsolicited grammar lesson. Maybe save your condescending comments for someone who actually cares about your opinion.
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  3. #23
    Player RyanCousland's Avatar
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    Rion Cousland
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    (Two posts ago)

    And regardless of any alleged attempt at humor, you still didn't use the word correctly.
    theres a formal and informal way to use it, so there really isnt a correct way
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  4. #24
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    Zuzeh Diqna
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    Exodus
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    This thread has more PvP in it than the new Shatter does lmao
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  5. #25
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    Xylira Mierqid
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    Mateus
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    I have to agree with OP, the new shatter map is much worse than than the old version. It's seriously just not fun at all.

    I'd rather have secure back in the rotation if it meant having the old shatter back. At least then I was only avoiding one out of every four days in the rotation. Seems like I'll be avoiding one out of three days now.
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  6. #26
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    Bergfinn Mrazsch
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubrication View Post
    Shatter is a PvE mode. There wasn’t actual PVP in shatter for a long time now. I think stormblood was the last time people actually “pvp’d” in shatter.
    Maybe things were like that on your datacenter, but on Primal, even before the whole PvP rework we got in EW (aka way bf smn/drk/drg LB stacking where a thing), a team could easily win by doing pvp only.



    On topic: I'm all in for the map be reverted back, the new map is horrible in so many levels compared to the previous version, not just the constant ice spawning but also how tanky they are now for no reason, stalling the match more than needed. No escape routes for all teams on each big ice at the corners, and for last, the walls around the big ice on middle being more a hindrance than a good thing.
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  7. #27
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    Zalera
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    From what I know, They never reverted anything to what it was.. sorry friend but its gone forever. The pvp team at square is just so out of touch

    Shatter was bad but this is the nail in the coffin for me, I'm done with this game lol I have played this game over the years, participated in all of the PvP content, they we're all deleted.

    Everytime it was starting to be fun, they deleted everything, I'm over it
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  8. #28
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    MisterNublet's Avatar
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    Autechre Voidmoon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Get rid of the small ices next to the bases, and add a route for the alliance on the right of the large outer ice.

    Something like this:

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    Last edited by MisterNublet; 05-30-2023 at 12:32 PM.

  9. #29
    Player
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    Edwin Vancleef
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    I figure its worth voicing our opinions that this new version of shatter is absolutely horrible, and its worth a try even if we're shouting into the void to steer them towards making better maps in the future.

    and yes that map above would make it more interesting to play. Certainly would have a lot more PvP going on.
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    Last edited by Archeron; 05-30-2023 at 10:48 AM. Reason: daily post limit is a *****

  10. #30
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    Mint Goh
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Horrible redesign to be honest I have been in alliances who ended with 1/0 or mostly 0 kills or deaths because everyone just sit in the respawn destroying small ices letting the rest of the alliances fight on the north.

    Borderland ruins was a TORTURE to play because 70% of the time was just circle around in mounts and risking to go top and then get insta killed by a monk/mch camping. But in Shatter its just 99% killing ices 1 % touching an afk.
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