Crystalline Conflict Party (with Friends) Request:

[Archeron]

I love it that these premaders are jumping down our throats because we dont want them stomping on solo queuers in CC. Absolutely pathetic, the lot of you. "It's all about me me me!" mindset is exactly why the PvP devs don't listen to any of your feedback.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I love it that these premaders are jumping down our throats because we dont want them stomping on solo queuers in CC. Absolutely pathetic, the lot of you. "It's all about me me me!" mindset is exactly why the PvP devs don't listen to any of your feedback.

...if you need a scapegoat to not turn this into an "us VS them" scenario please actually just use me as a token head. There is absolutely no need to lump people who'd simply enjoy the option with me who verbally and actively pushes for this addition.

That said, your entire post could be completely inverted by replacing "premaders" with "soloqueuers" and just flipping the reason with "they dont want their sterile and ritualistic baalnce to be disturbed". This argument structure goes both ways.

The difference here is that one group clamours for an addition and providing reasoning to why this addition is beneficial for more than balancing games such as fostering a greater player retention, which would happen through players returning who missed this feature since as I said before, 2-man in casual was a standard feature.

And the other group insists that things need to stay the way they are, denying changes and additions suggested by other players in an attempt to preserve a theoretical balance that would be "doomed and ruined" if that change were come to pass and completely closing off the idea to give new options a shot. Basically just hypothesis + conservatism.

I do not know about you, but I vibe more with things changing up rather than staying the same

[Nickypooh]

I love it that these premaders are jumping down our throats because we dont want them stomping on solo queuers in CC. Absolutely pathetic, the lot of you. "It's all about me me me!" mindset is exactly why the PvP devs don't listen to any of your feedback.

With a mindset like that you'll never enjoy PvP for what it is or what it could be.

[Archeron]

With a mindset like that you'll never enjoy PvP for what it is or what it could be.

Yes, I will never enjoy a PvP mode that favors whichever team is stacked with premades that queue specifically to stomp solo que players for an easy series XP farm. No thanks. Take your premades to frontlines.

[OMGJesuis66]

CC *absolutely* should have a party system. The mode itself is VERY frustrating to play Solo, regardless of Casual or Ranked, because simply people do not listen to Quick Chat, throw themselves at Crystal, and never follow anyone calling shots or anything. FFXIV has a mentality against competitive PvP, but CC intent is to provide a place for Competitive PvP. Therefore, not being able to properly communicate, or play with friends, is a massive detriment.

And if you're that worried about a SoloQ being stomped by a team? That's simple. Make a Queue for teams only, and make a Queue for solo only, in Casuals, at least. That way everything should be equal, right? There's hardly any enjoyment in playing an unbalanced mode, with very bad networking, by yourself and seeing how you're completely unable to turn the tide of the match because one or two selected few that seem to be completely forgetting what the mode is meant for.

That kind of mindset should stick to Frontlines, where they plagued the mode and made it also equally unenjoyable because no one really cares about winning or losing.

[Eisi]

CC *absolutely* should have a party system. The mode itself is VERY frustrating to play Solo, regardless of Casual or Ranked, because simply people do not listen to Quick Chat, throw themselves at Crystal, and never follow anyone calling shots or anything. FFXIV has a mentality against competitive PvP, but CC intent is to provide a place for Competitive PvP. Therefore, not being able to properly communicate, or play with friends, is a massive detriment.

I think people just don't know how to play. They care about winning but they don't know how to read chat during combat, what the chat commands even mean, they quickly learn that they should stand in the crystal which is the reason why they run in solo, because they think they have to accumulate time inside the circle and they don't know about many other fundamental things in CC. They mean well and try really but they just dont and wont know unless they get external help, the game doesnt explain itself.

[OMGJesuis66]

I think people just don't know how to play. They care about winning but they don't know how to read chat during combat, what the chat commands even mean, they quickly learn that they should stand in the crystal which is the reason why they run in solo, because they think they have to accumulate time inside the circle and they don't know about many other fundamental things in CC. They mean well and try really but they just dont and wont know unless they get external help, the game doesnt explain itself.

I can agree with that.
Equally, both are a game's fault, but at the same time, people do not really feel invested in learning PvP in this game.
And offering them help, or just trying to explain things, more than often is taken wrong or just straight up refused.

There's very little motivation to keep people playing it. Even when we had cool rewards like the PvP Sets, all that happened there was Win Trading. It's just the mentality that exists in the game, I guess.

[Ransu]

I love it that these premaders are jumping down our throats because we dont want them stomping on solo queuers in CC. Absolutely pathetic, the lot of you. "It's all about me me me!" mindset is exactly why the PvP devs don't listen to any of your feedback.

I'm stomping on people in casual queue anyways, so what difference does it make that I have a friend in my group that doesn't normally pvp? Or did you forget already that casual doesn't have matchmaking so there are crystal tier players in the matches along with people who don't even know how to keybind making matches extremely easy for crystal tier players.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I'm stomping on people in casual queue anyways, so what difference does it make that I have a friend in my group that doesn't normally pvp? Or did you forget already that casual doesn't have matchmaking so there are crystal tier players in the matches along with people who don't even know how to keybind making matches extremely easy for crystal tier players.

I think what some might forget that having lesser skilled players team up will give them a better chance against high profile solo queuers.

Food for thought.

[Archeron]

I'm stomping on people in casual queue anyways, so what difference does it make that I have a friend in my group that doesn't normally pvp? Or did you forget already that casual doesn't have matchmaking so there are crystal tier players in the matches along with people who don't even know how to keybind making matches extremely easy for crystal tier players.

"I grind crystal, but I'm not stomping on people in casual queue" lmao.