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    OK sure, but only if it's a grind equal to waiting out a couple expansions.



    Like run normal mode 20k times synced or something. That seems fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    OK sure, but only if it's a grind equal to waiting out a couple expansions.



    Like run normal mode 20k times synced or something. That seems fair.
    Or how about a grind equal to the time a savage raider would spend practicing and completing a savage? That way its equal time spent.
    It also never needed to have anything to do with a savage raid. This one is an axolotl for example, nothing like the raid. But it is like fishing where you actually catch axolotls.
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    Last edited by Glasss; 05-26-2023 at 08:22 AM.

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    Ok. So what do players who complete Savage and Ultimate get instead then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Ok. So what do players who complete Savage and Ultimate get instead then?
    They get jealous people hating on them, why of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Ok. So what do players who complete Savage and Ultimate get instead then?
    "but then why not provide them with unique titles or high iLvl gear thats useful for the content they are doing?"

    FFXIV is a game people play for fun, it is not a job. If players want to do savages its because they want to do that kind of content. Yeah you could give them titles and achievements as rewards. High iLvl gear would make sense too as it would make doing the savage content also more efficient. There are plenty of people who do savages and ultimate for that kind of reward as it is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glasss View Post
    Or how about a grind equal to the time a savage raider would spend practicing and completing a savage? That way its equal time spent.
    It also never needed to have anything to do with a savage raid. This one is an axolotl for example, nothing like the raid. But it is like fishing where you actually catch axolotls.



    Time spent and effort spent aren't really the same.



    If it's easy content, toy need to take a lot longer or you disencentivize people doing the hard content.



    You already said you can wait until you out gear it and out level it to do so. That's the compromise.



    Ultimate is meant to be hard forever. They don't want to cheapen that (any further than run sellers already do) by allowing you to just.... Do CT a few times to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    They get jealous people hating on them, why of course.
    I have no hate for raiders, I think what they do is very impressive and am glad they have a good time doing them. Never did I say the savage players are at fault. They should still get something out of it like achievements and useful gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glasss View Post
    "but then why not provide them with unique titles or high iLvl gear thats useful for the content they are doing?"

    FFXIV is a game people play for fun, it is not a job. If players want to do savages its because they want to do that kind of content. Yeah you could give them titles and achievements as rewards. High iLvl gear would make sense too as it would make doing the savage content also more efficient. There are plenty of people who do savages and ultimate for that kind of reward as it is now.
    What if I want the Faux Hollows mount but I don't want to do Unreal Trials?

    What if I want the Blackjack but I don't want to grind 4 million MGP?

    What if I want the Nightmare Pegasus but can't solo POTD?

    Should there be any content specific rewards? Should everything be made available from a central HUB store and all content just give you Gil to buy it all with?


    Btw, you can run all the previous Savage tiers with a little help, unsynced, and get old Savage mounts that way.
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    Last edited by Seraphor; 05-26-2023 at 08:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glasss View Post
    SE needs to stop locking glams and mounts behind raids. I'm sure people have raised this many times, but its worth mentioning again since its suggested the axolotl mount is behind the upcoming savage.



    SE will release a good looking glam but only provide the dyable version behind the savages. A mount teased in the live letter is now presumed to be a savage mount? The most visually impressive weapons of the game are behind ultimates.

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    All are completely inaccessible for many players with disabilities or other such issues. Its frustrating when this is a game we pay to play and we get cut off from content like this.

    I get that they want to reward players able to defeat hard content, but then why not provide them with unique titles or high iLvl gear thats useful for the content they are doing?

    As it is now, I and many others will have to wait until a couple expansions later when the savages might be doable unsynced. And in the case of Ultimates it will always be an unobtainable dream.
    sounds like a skill issue problem to me. savage isnt hard and is completely accessible. i am trash at this game and i can clear savage so that REALLY says something. as for ulti waeapons, THE FANCY WEAPONS ARE WHY MOST PEOPLE DO THEM. Stop trying to take rewards away from people who enjoy a challenge and just get good.
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