Crystalline Conflict Party (with Friends) Request:

[Nickypooh]

It's been roughly over a year now, when can I play CC with my friends :/?

Add duo queue or just make a premade queue for CC.

[Canadane]

As many others have pointed out it would serve to make it unbalanced.
Right now CC is fun even in casual mode because of the balance.

There's many other things in the game you can play with friends with.

[Yushees]

No fun allowed sir

[Ransu]

As many others have pointed out it would serve to make it unbalanced.
Right now CC is fun even in casual mode because of the balance.

There's many other things in the game you can play with friends with.

And its also been pointed out that its a stupid argument. A duo isn't going to suddenly shift balance of teams in a CASUAL mode that has ZERO matchmaking. Duos or trios...the two or three randoms are more likely to cause the loss of the match than the "premade" is to cause a win. A group of 2 or 3 is far, FAR from a "premade", and I'll point this out again, but if you care that much about the balance of a match why are you playing casual instead of ranked where there actually is matchmaking? People say "sweats" but casual mode is "sweatier" than ranked sometimes.

[ThaCa]

As many others have pointed out it would serve to make it unbalanced.
Right now CC is fun even in casual mode because of the balance.

There's many other things in the game you can play with friends with.

Casual puts first timers in same matches with top 100, it is anything but balanced.

[Tehmon]

And its also been pointed out that its a stupid argument. A duo isn't going to suddenly shift balance of teams in a CASUAL mode that has ZERO matchmaking. Duos or trios...the two or three randoms are more likely to cause the loss of the match than the "premade" is to cause a win. A group of 2 or 3 is far, FAR from a "premade", and I'll point this out again, but if you care that much about the balance of a match why are you playing casual instead of ranked where there actually is matchmaking? People say "sweats" but casual mode is "sweatier" than ranked sometimes.

I doubt anyone opposing duos or groups enjoys playing CC to begin with. They just don't want their already miserable experience of having to do CC to obtain certain rewards to potentially suck even more. Because even if you don't care about CC, losing still sucks.

'' Casual matchmaking is already unbalanced making the games frustrating a lot of the times, let's make it even more (potentially) terrible for solo players by adding duos and even groups '' isn't exactly a great argument imo. I have no real opinion or knowledge on whether 2-3 people grouping up has much effect on the results though, but I sense it wouldn't be great for the opposing team.

[flowerfairy]

Sometimes I see people with the same last name queue for casual at the same time and sometimes they manage to land a game on the same team together. So it’s still possible to play together, just not as convenient.

I think two or three players being able to queue together won’t have as catastrophic result as you guys are making it out to be. CC is already easy enough to coordinate with randoms, just put a marker on who you’re focusing. I don’t know what more voice comms can add as an advantage.

[Ransu]

Sometimes I see people with the same last name queue for casual at the same time and sometimes they manage to land a game on the same team together. So it’s still possible to play together, just not as convenient.

I think two or three players being able to queue together won’t have as catastrophic result as you guys are making it out to be. CC is already easy enough to coordinate with randoms, just put a marker on who you’re focusing. I don’t know what more voice comms can add as an advantage.

Aint no one trying to be coordinated in voice comms in casual mode lol. Most of my XIV friends are not even pvpers, but they wanted to try the mode with me and couldn't.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Oh, I thought you just wanted to HAVE FUN, not grind rewards more efficiently at the expense of another unorganized team having a shittier time for the most part.

A stick or a carrot, either way is fine.

Oh what the, for the love of all this is good... you realise that "having fun with friends" and "getting your rewards" are not needed to be mutually exclusive? Holy shit man, not everything in this game needs to be neutered in fear of a handful of groups trying to optimise their gains. People have been living in the shadow of solo-queue-only for so long they literally fear the concept of people pairing up to play, now we are trying to bargain "oh they can come but only under pretense XYZ".

Is it really so much to ask to at least TRY IT?

I doubt anyone opposing duos or groups enjoys playing CC to begin with. They just don't want their already miserable experience of having to do CC to obtain certain rewards to potentially suck even more. Because even if you don't care about CC, losing still sucks.

'' Casual matchmaking is already unbalanced making the games frustrating a lot of the times, let's make it even more (potentially) terrible for solo players by adding duos and even groups '' isn't exactly a great argument imo. I have no real opinion or knowledge on whether 2-3 people grouping up has much effect on the results though, but I sense it wouldn't be great for the opposing team.

So is it more important to cater to the people who have a "miserable time playing the game because its PvP" insisting it to remain strict and sterile solo-only or would it be better if we actually gave people options and tried things rather than hypothetically talking about how "miserable" the experience would be?

[Mistress_Irika]

...petition to not use the word "fun" in an argument?