6.4: Dark throne review

[Thurmnmurmn]

That's because whole 6.X story is just a filler with yet another 20+ years old FF cameo. This is a problem since EW doesn't even have dedicated trial storyline this time, no storyline for relics and/or explorable zone either. Pandaemonium is only decent story left. I'm curious about opinions of hyper casuals who only play for a story.

I would say this patch was even worst. Felt like filler of a filler arc. So much time wasted on fan service/comedy and barely any spent on the actual story. And the actual story bits for the most part, were quite predictable.
It's honestly a good thing I don't play this game mainly for the story anymore cuz I would be gone after this ew story.

[Shinkuno]

Let's just turn this game into softcore p*** because that's what it is anyways

The entire story revolves around fanservice of like 2385902835 different NPCs that degens fire their meaty cannons or valleys on before spending 1 second on the actual story

This games community is a good example of what 24/7 instant unrestricted access to p*rn did to a whole generation

[caffe_macchiato]

Are FFXIV writers on drugs?

Don't care, doesn't matter. A ton of people like this patch. FFXIV is widely considered to be the best MMO right now and one of the best JRPGs of all time. Nearly everyone has been happy and is having fun watching cutscenes about curry and people looking straight at the wall. We in the FFXIV community should support the brave and hard-working developers who work night and day to give us this wonderful cutscene--I mean game--for the price of a sandwich (panini) (extra avocado). In fact, I wish I could tip the developers just to show my gratitude.

Oh, and by the way? Zero is awesome. She's cool, just like me. Learn to be like Zero, will you?



I believe this thread is over. The people have spoken. NEXT!

[Mainasu]

I think seeing that one trial mob during the Live Letter gave me some hope that we were going to be wrapping up the whole Void/Azdaja thing in this patch, with Golbez as the last obstacle, before setting something up in the 6.5 series to lead up more to whatever the expansion will be. Welp..

I understand they want to hit all the FFIV beats, and Zeromus was an inevitability, I guess, but I'm just exhausted of this story. It really feels needlessly drawn out, to the point where I was just kind of annoyed when we saw Golbez turn Azdaja in front of us, like "Great.. glad this was built up over a year", rather than being invested, motivated, or upset by it.

I was much more intrigued by little details like Erenville's hint of an expedition and 'homecoming', the letter Krile kept glancing at, Thancred and Urianger's hints at there being a need for Archons for something... I guess because it's hinting at new things, and hopefully an end to this whole Thirteenth business.

I really hope Fan Fest can bring some excitement back, cause this has been the most disconnected I've been from the MSQ in ages, and I'm someone who has liked-to-loved most of the story up to and including 6.0.

[CNitsah]

I think seeing that one trial mob during the Live Letter gave me some hope that we were going to be wrapping up the whole Void/Azdaja thing in this patch, with Golbez as the last obstacle, before setting something up in the 6.5 series to lead up more to whatever the expansion will be. Welp..

I understand they want to hit all the FFIV beats, and Zeromus was an inevitability, I guess, but I'm just exhausted of this story. It really feels needlessly drawn out, to the point where I was just kind of annoyed when we saw Golbez turn Azdaja in front of us, like "Great.. glad this was built up over a year", rather than being invested, motivated, or upset by it.

I was much more intrigued by little details like Erenville's hint of an expedition and 'homecoming', the letter Krile kept glancing at, Thancred and Urianger's hints at there being a need for Archons for something... I guess because it's hinting at new things, and hopefully an end to this whole Thirteenth business.

I really hope Fan Fest can bring some excitement back, cause this has been the most disconnected I've been from the MSQ in ages, and I'm someone who has liked-to-loved most of the story up to and including 6.0.

Exactly that (except I felt anger when I saw they were really going for Zeromus). Not that the story by itself is bad. I've been wanting to know about the last first brood for a long time. But there are so much things that are not the whole Azdaja Golbez storyline it's tiring. When the storyline actually come you're just frustrated/bored there is so few of it.

[EliaStormblade]

Don't care, doesn't matter. A ton of people like this patch. FFXIV is widely considered to be the best MMO right now and one of the best JRPGs of all time. Nearly everyone has been happy and is having fun watching cutscenes about curry and people looking straight at the wall. We in the FFXIV community should support the brave and hard-working developers who work night and day to give us this wonderful cutscene--I mean game--for the price of a sandwich (panini) (extra avocado). In fact, I wish I could tip the developers just to show my gratitude.

Oh, and by the way? Zero is awesome. She's cool, just like me. Learn to be like Zero, will you?



I believe this thread is over. The people have spoken. NEXT!

True and good post, Macchi.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Minor point, but is it just me, or does Urianger sound different this patch? Could just be the migraine talking, but he sounds off.

[EliaStormblade]

Minor point, but is it just me, or does Urianger sound different this patch? Could just be the migraine talking, but he sounds off.

At the start of the MSQ, some voices seem a little off. Had the same with Estinien too.

[WubstahWulf]

I think the structure of the patch (1 dungeon, 1 trial) is really hurting the storytelling.

6.1 was ok, it's job was to relaunch a new story after the epic conclusion of EW vanilla. I was really hyped when I realised they were gonna explain where was the last of the first brood. It's not remarkable, but it did the job : create expectation for what was coming.

6.2 was good. It introduced Zero, The Golbez team, and the two Golbez generals were well buildt, and both the dungeon and the trial had stakes.

6.3 was a deception. It's the anti thesis of 6.2. The whole first part didn't make the story progress at all. It felt like the Twins were shoehorned in the story. The two generals were not build, which made their fight forgetable. It's shame because Rubicante had a nice design. At the end of the patch, you sure have defeated 2 more generals, but for the rest... the story of saving Azdaja didn't progress at all. We're at the same point than at the end of 6.2. That's were you begin to feel the structure hurt the story.

6.4 made me angry. You have a first part that is useless to the story told. I feel "getting fuel and autorisations" is not a good enough justification to spend 2h30 going here and there and not progressing in the main story of the patch. Instead we have several side stories that are not developped enough to be satisfying. Wrost things is : none of those elements are bad per se, but the time they take compared to Azdaja/Golbez plotline is too long. To me it felt like stalling before getting to the part we all knew was coming. And when we got there,it abruptly cut because "there cannot be 2 trials in a patch". It's fair in term of structure, but in term of climax, it's awful. You just cut it in two, which feels very disatisfying. Especially since we know we will have to get another dungeon that will probably have no real importance before we can get the the real thing, because it's the structure.

I also feel the whole "ho no, our talisman don't work anymore, let's retreat" is too convenient. It screams "patch is done, come back in four month". Something I never felt during ShB patches, or even early EW ones. First of all, the WoL doesn't need it, and it feels so out of character to leave without even trying anything. There was other ways to deal with that. Being pushed back or something.

That story was just not written to last this long. We just got two patch that delayed the story with different subterfuges, and when we finally get to it, it abruptly ends because it's next patch trial. I would have liked the story to be written another way. I don't know what happened between 6.2 and 6.3, but something seems to have happened. I have difficulties to believe the guy that wrote this are the same that wrote EW.

the next patch is going to be the climax of it all what are you complaining about?
there was a long drought with no content at all during stormblood after everything was concluded I am guessing by having it padded like this adds more time to stretch out certain content

6.5 is going to be the last patch for this expansion where most of the story content will be finishing everything that has been going on and starting the new story for the coming expansion

[Aluja89]

I'm sorry, but a glistening and sweaty Estinian will never be filler. Women all over reddit are beside themselves as I type this lol.

Man, shut up.