Shameful lack of content, Yoshi P.

[Themarvin]

There is plenty of stuff to do in the game still

[kaynide]

So according to your point of view, people shouldnt even complain then, after all they dont owe us anything so why even complain ? All we are good is for paying the subscription right ?

Did you not read what I wrote? Is there a point to our conversation if you are just going to not read it and fly off the handle/rant randomly? Or are you just here to waste everybody’s time?

[IkaraGreydancer]

I don't really take people who don't have everything (close to) done seriously. If you don't you cant complain (factually) about a lack of content or things to do. In fact didn't someone here prove that the content hasn't actually lessend compared to the past expansion? Content you don't want to do is still content. Content you don't find fun or worth is still content.

Also do we really need these threads every day/week? They're just circlejerks at this point


Oh btw word to the wise here. Stormypeaks often twists what people say to make them look bad or misrepresent them. Don't believe me? If you're bored check their post history. Just a heads up

[SannaR]

I don't really take people who don't have everything (close to) done seriously. If you don't you cant complain (factually) about a lack of content or things to do. In fact didn't someone here prove that the content hasn't actually lessend compared to the past expansion? Content you don't want to do is still content. Content you don't find fun or worth is still content.

Also do we really need these threads every day/week? They're just circlejerks at this point


Oh btw word to the wise here. Stormypeaks often twists what people say to make them look bad or misrepresent them. Don't believe me? If you're bored check their post history. Just a heads up

Do we need all of these threads that are practically the same thread? No, but look at who we're dealing with. Course this also is how thr NA forum has been for years. It just feels a lot more prevalent these days. It's a mix of a few groups. The "I feel my voice is being drowned out in another person's thread so I need to start a new one" type. And the "More threads on/about the same thing surely has to out weigh one thread with a butt ton of pages, right?" crowd. Mixed in with the "late person to the debate/possible troll who can't be bothered to use the search function (or more likely the search function is crap) who feels the need to start a new thread" type.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Do we need all of these threads that are practically the same thread? No, but look at who we're dealing with. Course this also is how thr NA forum has been for years. It just feels a lot more prevalent these days. It's a mix of a few groups. The "I feel my voice is being drowned out in another person's thread so I need to start a new one" type. And the "More threads on/about the same thing surely has to out weigh one thread with a butt ton of pages, right?" crowd. Mixed in with the "late person to the debate/possible troll who can't be bothered to use the search function (or more likely the search function is crap) who feels the need to start a new thread" type.

Honestly I can't really argue there. Sadly I don't think it'd change with a "good" expansion. NA forums are tainted at this point. It's just a vent space and an attack ground. Hence why I'd imagine is partially why devs steer clear whether that's right/wrong, fair/not.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Copium
-- Stormpeaks 2023

As you know thats the only retort they have.

[Elissar]

Dude, you literally has no job at lv90. You didnt finish Bozjan. All you do is crafting, with some suffering you levelled up only Dwarf tribe and you are complaining about content in the whole game, lol.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

Not just content but the game itself. FFXIV is presented as a very casual friendly game which has content easy to keep people playing for casual people. I would say that out of the community 85% to 90% casual player base with a 10% to 15% hardcore player base. It's why the content is so easy if all the content was a lot more challenging then casual players wouldn't be around as much. People say there is plenty to do BUT that exception is got to have friends in order to do all the content mostly. The thing that sucks is from someone who has been on this game since 2014 is that the community lives in clique bubbles. The game is fine if you are in that clique but if your an outsider then the game is now a solo game and not much fun.

To me the game has been losing it's shine it may have gotten a new coat of paint but nothing really has changed. People that actually critique the flaws in the game get judged by the community like it's a cult and get outed and ostracized about showing the flaws and what can be done to correct them but to the cult it's 100% perfect so people just stop caring. Why should I voice what is wrong with features, jobs etc when my thinking will get shot down? I might as well just stand in a city and go afk or use FFXIV as a online chat room which is what it has devolved into. I even go into a duty and mainly listen to music because 95% of the time no one ever speaks and just becomes a boring run.

[aveyond-dreams]

Nah you should complain. Give feedback as much as you can, but if they still won't listen after a while, then you just leave and find another video game.
And I'm telling you, as a dude who's been complaining in this place for 4-5 years, they won't listen.
They won't listen to you, they won't listen to me, because we're not the target audience anymore.

Let's just both hope the upcoming MMOs are good.

The time for a FFXIV exodus is likely upon us. This is the exact opposite of what I wanted for this game, but the current state of affairs leaves us with no choice. You cannot hope to keep me around if the story isn't gripping and if the content isn't designed to be played through more than once. This is out of my hands, and I refuse to be gaslit by some people who sooner pin the blame on players rather than how the game has been driven to this point.

I didn't want to end up playing FFXI more than FFXIV this expansion but that is quite literally the outcome they've manufactured with the string of decisions leading up to this patch. Granted I was so eager to praise them for finally taking my main job in the right direction after a decade of waiting for Summoner to stop being a poison mage but it's still extremely lacking compared to my pantheon in FFXI, which I can further strengthen through horizontal progression systems. But here? This expansion doesn't even have a real relic grind.

What's most frustrating of all is that there were so many easy ways and opportunities to throw my crowd a bone every now and then and each time nothing happened. A complete betrayal on each front was the reward of my decade of loyalty to this game, as both gameplay and the setting itself are destroyed bit by bit to make way for: ??? Who even knows. Much as I'd like for Hiroi to blow me away and show me that he's capable of being the right writer to steer this ship back on track, I cannot help but be concerned for what awaits us at the end of Pandaemonium's storyline. To say nothing of the fact that his work, however excellent, does not compensate for the shortcomings of the mass-produced low quality gameplay content of Endwalker.

I don't take pleasure in calling this out - I would much rather be like how I was back in Shadowbringers praising Bozja and the story at every opportunity. And yet even I as one of the game's biggest fans was let down in so many ways. While I have people accusing me of being a hater, that I've always disliked everything about the game, when that is the complete opposite of the truth.

Zelda is not more important than addressing the concerns we've been trying to call attention to this expansion. Let's see if by fanfest attention is refocused back on FFXIV and that we can avoid similar displays. FFXIV has so much trust to regain right now, but if not even the first step in the right direction can be taken by at least seeing and acknowledging the feedback of these issues, then no matter how much I'd love to come back and have this game as my main MMORPG, it won't be able to reclaim its position like it had back through 2013-2022. How we have 10 more years of FFXIV in a world with no empire, no gods, no other major threats, coupled with continually simplified gameplay and nonrepeatable content is a question I have no answer to.

I did not want my journey to end with Endwalker.

[Ivtrix]

Not just content but the game itself. FFXIV is presented as a very casual friendly game which has content easy to keep people playing for casual people. I would say that out of the community 85% to 90% casual player base with a 10% to 15% hardcore player base. It's why the content is so easy if all the content was a lot more challenging then casual players wouldn't be around as much. People say there is plenty to do BUT that exception is got to have friends in order to do all the content mostly. The thing that sucks is from someone who has been on this game since 2014 is that the community lives in clique bubbles. The game is fine if you are in that clique but if your an outsider then the game is now a solo game and not much fun.

To me the game has been losing its shine it may have gotten a new coat of paint but nothing really has changed. People that actually critique the flaws in the game get judged by the community like it's a cult and get outed and ostracized about showing the flaws and what can be done to correct them but to the cult it's 100% perfect so people just stop caring. Why should I voice what is wrong with features, jobs etc when my thinking will get shot down? I might as well just stand in a city and go afk or use FFXIV as an online chat room which is what it has devolved into. I even go into a duty and mainly listen to music because 95% of the time no one ever speaks and just becomes a boring run.

I do really feel on the second bit you touched upon. There are a lot of people who view this game as well as yoshi p as infallible. It does make it hard, a lot of attitudes especially on these forums is “WELL THIS DOESNT EFFECT ME, IM HAVING FUN STOP BEING A DOOMER”

I really enjoy this game but there are some glaring weaknesses that the devs really need to address otherwise we are going to be in a lot of trouble come 7.0