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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    "But but but WoW bad!" will never be as good of an argument as you guys think it is.
    A good reason to that, is thats not even the Argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    "But but but WoW bad!" will never be as good of an argument as you guys think it is.
    You don't know me, clearly, I have frequently also mentioned things WoW does well. Don't lump if you won't pay attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    A good reason to that, is thats not even the Argument.
    Nah you don't understand - if you make a vague comment comparing 1 thing to another e.g.,

    like rolling mountain is done well here in comparison to say WoW..
    Then it indicates that your sole argument is XIV good, WoW bad. Honestly, at this point some people aren't even reading what they write before posting.

    [Edit] - If it isn't clear, I am making reference to their perception of what Shougun was saying and how woefully detracted from reality it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Nah you don't understand - if you make a vague comment comparing 1 thing to another e.g.,



    Then it indicates that your sole argument is XIV good, WoW bad. Honestly, at this point some people aren't even reading what they write before posting.
    .... you say one thing is good, rolling mountain for example, over a other, and that's what you get out of it? "WoW bad, FFXIV good"?

    Some awful assuming you got there. Write my posts for me. Wow..

    I'm one of the few during the fever dream of FFXIV relaunch that pointed out good things WoW did/does (as I still do).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    .... you say one thing is good, rolling mountain for example, over a other, and that's what you get out of it? "WoW bad, FFXIV good"?

    Some awful assuming you got there. Write my posts for me. Wow..

    I'm one of the few during the fever dream of FFXIV relaunch that pointed out good things WoW did/does (as I still do).
    Well, I was being sarcastic with respect to it.

    What they've done is effectively no different from when some posters say "Because you make 1 criticism of XIV, you must therefore hate the entire product" (I mean there are levels to it) - But hey, their perception was not as clever as they thought it was. Just don't know why they were so eager to strip any nuance from your post.

    Honestly, I barely even want to write my own posts half of the time - Let alone go beyond that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Well, I was being sarcastic with respect to it.

    What they've done is effectively no different from when some posters say "Because you make 1 criticism of XIV, you must therefore hate the entire product" (I mean there are levels to it) - But hey, their perception was not as clever as they thought it was. Just don't know why they were so eager to strip any nuance from your post.

    Honestly, I barely even want to write my own posts half of the time - Let alone go beyond that
    Ah lol. Well I can agree it's frustrating and I have seen what you say, just don't return the favor onto me lol.

    I don't mind the criticism nor that some people don't find taking a break as acceptable, that's fine, I never stop people from wanting more. Though maybe point out if what is being asked is really what they are asking. Like, do you mean quantity? Sounds like a quality argument. Etc.

    Feedback good, my one mantra if I had one in the forums.

    WoW has some things I love and wish FFXIV witnessed. I also like refencing other games like GW2 for amazing movement in mounts or way better FATEs.

    Sorry for being a bit sharp but I was like... man.. you have no idea how much I was pushed against by others when I say WoW still has good ideas and then to get called a WoW hater and FFXIV fan boy, essentially, I was like... jackiechan-what the hell.jpg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    How about we ask for more because we're paying customers and square enix aren't our friends?
    why settle for less with a product?
    I think its a bit of both really. Its always fair to question the game, but I think some do need to also accept that not every expansion/patch/content is gonna be for them. Its the just the nature of live service games that tailored content is impossible. Sometimes burnout happens too, and taking a break is never a bad thing.

    Plus there is complaining in a constructive manner, and then there is talking about the game as if the end is neigh and anyone who dares not accept that criticism is a blind sheep on copium. Not having the same negative feelings does not mean we think Yoshi-P is our BFF in shining Paladin gear, and outside of a troll or two I do not think think anyone is saying teh game is perfect and should never have any criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    I think its a bit of both really. Its always fair to question the game, but I think some do need to also accept that not every expansion/patch/content is gonna be for them.
    Yess. My thing is the relic weapon grind. So I waited patiently for a year until "my" patch arrived and then I got... nothing?

    Well a tomestone dump. Don't get me wrong, I am totally fine with grinding tomestones, but 1500 ist not grinding, that's just 3/4 of the amount I already had with me.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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    Shameful. Yoshida San has granted you a path to enjoyment. (scoff) And yet you stray from it at every opportunity! You afk. You sit on the forums complaining. Shameful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Shameful. Yoshida San has granted you a path to enjoyment. (scoff) And yet you stray from it at every opportunity! You afk. You sit on the forums complaining. Shameful.
    I was 5 hours in Pagos today :O

    Even got the Blitzring after countless tries \^^/

    I have the right to be afk now and to complain v.v/
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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