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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Not sure what kinda response you want. It's not out yet? I leveled all classes in Beta. I'm very hype.
    June 2nd - Basically my whole FC / Friend list will be on that for a bit.

    Remember, you can play and root for more than 1 franchise.
    You finished everything? Oh so the content is dead then. Well that was quick.








    Just going by your previous logic
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  2. #282
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    You finished everything? Oh so the content is dead then. Well that was quick.


    Just going by your previous logic

    No - It's not online, I can't play it.


    You're just out for blood or something. Too bad I'm already anemic, haha gottem! Wait..

    And sure, some day - When or if Diablo 4 messes up or fails to deliver, I'll let them know.
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    Last edited by R041; 05-18-2023 at 12:23 AM.

  3. #283
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    No - It's not online, I can't play it.


    You're just out for blood or something. Too bad I'm already anemic, haha gottem! Wait..
    Naw im just waiting with the honeymoon phase. I say honeymoon because so far you sing praises to other games without pointing out its faults. Its really no different to when the WoW crowd came to this game and started being starry-eyed about everything.

    Unlike me who is currently playing and enjoying other games such as Dragonflight, ESO (havent much talked about this one yet) and FFXI but still point out shit thats bad about it. Its hard to take someone seriously without them taking some perspective
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Naw im just waiting with the honeymoon phase. I say honeymoon because so far you sing praises to other games without pointing out its faults. Its really no different to when the WoW crowd came to this game and started being starry-eyed about everything.

    Unlike me who is currently playing and enjoying other games such as Dragonflight, ESO (havent much talked about this one yet) and FFXI but still point out shit thats bad about it. Its hard to take someone seriously without them taking some perspective
    I don't like ESO, I enjoy Dragonflight but have some choice words for it, I also really love XI right now but definitely point out it's flaws.

    If I buy a game, and then they also want an active subscription, and only get to really play it for a few hours every 4 months.. I think there's a problem. But you know what, we won't get into that debate. We've had it several times. We both live on these forums, and you're actively trying to bug me for excitement or something. Maybe you're bored too. lol

    Thing is, we're on the XIV forums, so no you're prob not gonna hear much about Dragonflight from me. I didn't even talk that much about Diablo, you're crazy.

    XI feels like something I've been looking for, for a long time. Which is a tough, soloable FF game. So forgive me for sending praise for a game that gets shafted by others. I didn't even see the appeal until recently when I was so bored I decided to bash my head in with the sledgehammer that is PlayOnline. You thought setting up XIV was tough!? Damn, XI is ROUGH. lol

    I have to preface to my friends, I love XI so far - But if they want to play, please let me set it up for them, or they're going to get super frustrated and quit.
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  5. #285
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    I don't like ESO, I enjoy Dragonflight but have some choice words for it, I also really love XI right now but definitely point out it's flaws.

    If I buy a game, and then they also want an active subscription, and only get to really play it for a few hours every 4 months.. I think there's a problem. But you know what, we won't get into that debate. We've had it several times. We both live on these forums, and you're actively trying to bug me for excitement or something. Maybe you're bored too. lol

    Thing is, we're on the XIV forums, so no you're prob not gonna hear much about Dragonflight from me. I didn't even talk that much about Diablo, you're crazy.

    XI feels like something I've been looking for, for a long time. Which is a tough, soloable FF game. So forgive me for sending praise for a game that gets shafted by others. I didn't even see the appeal until recently when I was so bored I decided to bash my head in with the sledgehammer that is PlayOnline. You thought setting up XIV was tough!? Damn, XI is ROUGH. lol

    I have to preface to my friends, I love XI so far - But if they want to play, please let me set it up for them, or they're going to get super frustrated and quit.
    Im at work. But you are also talking about a game you yourself have yet to reach endgame yet so you cant try to sell people on an retaining MMO experience when youre gushing about the early game experience. I say this since you obviously brought up the current retention content of FFXIV in defense of FFXI.

    I love FFXI but we have to be realistic about it because the current version of the game is not the quality and experience that most veterans remember FFXI for. All I ask is for you to be genuine and fair rather than sing praises in order to color one game being so bad than the other. I never followed the WoW bad, FF good crowd, nor do I think the vice versa should be done.

    Its why I said that FFXI is a guide game and not something modern players should get into blindly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Im at work. But you are also talking about a game you yourself have yet to reach endgame yet so you cant try to sell people on an retaining MMO experience when youre gushing about the early game experience. I say this since you obviously brought up the current retention content of FFXIV in defense of FFXI.

    I love FFXI but we have to be realistic about it because the current version of the game is not the quality and experience that most veterans remember FFXI for. All I ask is for you to be genuine and fair rather than sing praises in order to color one game being so bad than the other. I never followed the WoW bad, FF good crowd, nor do I think the vice versa should be done.

    Its why I said that FFXI is a guide game and not something modern players should get into blindly.
    Do you actively play XI or when is the last time you did? I’m just curious as I feel like I see a lot of people lately playing both
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Im at work. But you are also talking about a game you yourself have yet to reach endgame yet so you cant try to sell people on an retaining MMO experience when youre gushing about the early game experience. I say this since you obviously brought up the current retention content of FFXIV in defense of FFXI.

    I love FFXI but we have to be realistic about it because the current version of the game is not the quality and experience that most veterans remember FFXI for. All I ask is for you to be genuine and fair rather than sing praises in order to color one game being so bad than the other. I never followed the WoW bad, FF good crowd, nor do I think the vice versa should be done.

    Its why I said that FFXI is a guide game and not something modern players should get into blindly.

    If you've read my posts - I'm not even selling it as an MMO, even though it definitely is. So you're misunderstanding everything I've even been talking about. Why even bring up 'end-game'? If we're using my perspective, it's like bringing up 'end-game' for Elden Ring or something. I'm trying not to be an MMO Goblin here, and I'm treating XI differently.

    Just like how my friends in WoW completely destroy that game just to get to raid, and I just casually experience the world.

    I'm advising that if Final Fantasy fans have passed up XI altogether (like me, because of people like you), and they're playing XIV but are bored during lulls - Then I think it's a great experience. Tough, and yeah you'll need a guide for things, definitely more than you think. But it's something I really think even non-MMO people need to try now that Trusts are in, and exp isn't super slow. It's been a really fun FF filled adventure so far.

    So us even talking about WoW, or the MMO portion of XI - Is completely beside the point.

    Which is funny, because this was my same perspective with Diablo 4. I liked that it let me experience the world casually with my friends and SO. It doesn't railroad me like D1-D3 did.

    Three things super important for me in every game I play:

    1. Atmosphere
    2. Ease of coop
    3. Build variety
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    Last edited by R041; 05-18-2023 at 01:40 AM.

  8. #288
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Not sure what kinda response you want. It's not out yet? I leveled all classes in Beta. I'm very hype.
    June 2nd - Basically my whole FC / Friend list will be on that for a bit.

    Remember, you can play and root for more than 1 franchise.

    I do technically prefer FF, but that's just because it has a wider variety of stories. So easier to connect with. lol
    Good luck with how blizzard is starting to mess up in WoW and the Overwatch 2 disaster Diablo IV better be a knockout experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcg55ss View Post
    Good luck with how blizzard is starting to mess up in WoW and the Overwatch 2 disaster Diablo IV better be a knockout experience.
    Considering Blizzard's constant missteps, it won't be a knockout. They just canceled the PvE content for Overwatch 2, which is the only reason why anybody bought it.
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    Threw in Horizon Forbidden West. Got turned around, rode straight into a Thunderjaw site, and after a long battle where I apparently didn't have a decent bow with shock arrows or tear arrows, barely managed to bring it down, only to get finished off by a random patrol of Rebels with Acid Bristlebacks. Business as usual.
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