LOLPATCH 1.16a

[Abriael]

We keep loosing people everyday.

And pray tell, how exactly are you determining that? Since lately I'm seeing more and more people actually come back (many of which bored by rift, mind you). In the last few days Mysidia has been what I would define actually crowded. So much that I had to restart "ambushing" the battlewarden as soon as it appeared to avoid being left out every single time, and it's hard to find a place to grind without competition.

I would say that the server population has at the very least stabilyzed, if it isn't actually increasing.

[Evenstar]

You're quite the retard are you?

Look at how much info SE has given us since the forums went live.... not after the earthquake. Since the forums went live they figured out they don't need to update us that often anymore since we got a place to keep busy while complaining. Look at the previous letters and info from SE, we were getting stuff almost a couple of times per week. Now it's once a month and the trend will continue u can bet on it. It's a bad move on SE's part to not let us know what is coming up in the future because that kinda on info is what will keep players around.

February 28: Letter from producer IV
March3: Letter from producer V and patch 1.16
March 7: Forums went live
March 11: Earthquake and tsunami hits Japan
March 13: Servers go down
March 16: Letter from producer VI
March 25: Servers back up
March 28: Patch 1.16a

The forums went live just 4 days before the disaster. So give them a freaking break. We even got a letter from the producer when the servers were offline. Three days after the servers were up we got a small patch. Next patch should hit somewhere next week. What the hell do you guys want, seriously. It is not like taking your dog out for a walk in the park this is game developing and it is obvious some of you guys have no clue how a company works.

We also learned the following (from letters or forum posts)
*They are working on the battle system changes and we should get more information about that this week.
*They are working on the maps (redesign) and character collision issues.
*Patch 1.17 was schedule to be released somewhere at the end of March, but was pushed back two weeks.
*Before patch 1.17 goes live we will have more information about companies.
*They are going to add a hide/show button for the aggro indicator.

The ONLY thing they didn't do is state EXACTLY what is in patch 1.17. Which is a good thing. They will release the patch notes when they think its ready for a release. Otherwise they might have to eat those patch notes if they can not make certain changes in time ... I rather have them promising nothing than promising stuff and not being able to deliver.

So the past month they did all the above things, so what else do you want them do? Is that really not enough information? It is almost as much or maybe even more communication Blizzard has with his players and it is 1000% more than we ever had in FFXI. So please stop acting so damn spoiled.

[BelgianRofl]

Ivar, we are not worried about Square-Enix's stability. We are worried that the MMO to which we want to devote most of our free time will never be revived. I find the whole idea of an MMO fascinating - that you're playing in an open world with thousands of other people doing their own thing. I don't want to commit hours of my week to an extremely low population MMO.

I want FFXIV to succeed, but I worry that it will miss its opportunity for media spotlight. There aren't more than 200 people logged into Besaid at any given time now... It's been 6 months and already we need to merge servers - and there's only 8 zones in this game...

[Zkieve]

And pray tell, how exactly are you determining that? Since lately I'm seeing more and more people actually come back (many of which bored by rift, mind you). In the last few days Mysidia has been what I would define actually crowded. So much that I had to restart "ambushing" the battlewarden as soon as it appeared to avoid being left out every single time, and it's hard to find a place to grind without competition.

I would say that the server population has at the very least stabilyzed, if it isn't actually increasing.

I dont even .. nvm .Im tired of trying to put some sense into people .
Carry on.
Drop the shield once in a while we are on the same side.

[BelgianRofl]

^I am also on the same side. I want this game to explode into popularity. I want this to be the best MMO ever made and for the next 10 years.

[Abriael]

I dont even .. nvm .Im tired of trying to put some sense into people .
Carry on.
Drop the shield once in a while we are on the same side.

Actually, I'm starting to doubt that. I see quite a few people that would probably be delighted if this game was actually abandoned.
If one says that he wants a game to succeed but yet he does *nothing* else than spouting negativity, looking for even the silliest and most out of line excuses to do that, the diagnosis is pretty clear.

And again, you didn't answer my question. How do you determine that "we're losing people everyday"?

By now most of the ones that wanted to quit pretty much did.
End of the line, if there's someone that actually *knows* what the server population trends are, it's not me, or you, and most definitely not the most negativity-ridden naysayers that very possibly haven't logged in in months. That's SE.
So I'm quite sure they don't need to be costantly reminded by people that have nothing more than educated guesses.

[Corrderio]

So the past month they did all the above things, so what else do you want them do? Is that really not enough information? It is almost as much or maybe even more communication Blizzard has with his players and it is 1000% more than we ever had in FFXI. So please stop acting so damn spoiled.

I really don't expect much, but I wouldn't mind a quick post about what to expect in a few weeks. Companies are nearly done from how it sounds and we still seem to have zero information. And while the battle system changes are up next it'd be nice to know what will be changed. The drop from 15 to 8 people max in a party? The advanced (traditional) classes? Making classes more unique? There's a ton of stuff that can be touched on when you say "battle adjustments" so it'd be a bit nice on what to expect.

[Evenstar]

While i agree people need to be patient, the new team have not done anythin but words and promises so far.tweak and patches.

What do we need so people shut up ?A real update.How soon? well that depends on the dev team.I rather get somethin polished and engaging than more of the same unfinished garbage they have been feeding us since release.

Promises , letters , etc. Is just that , promises and letters.I think the complains are justified, but the complainers need to have patience , game wont magically fix itself.We definitely dont need more unfinished stuff in ffxiv.then again they need to hurry . We keep loosing people everyday.Time will tell.


edit; Can we have 1 thread without more of the earthquake talk ?

Absolutely. I am not saying the game doesn't need BIG UPDATES and changes. I am just saying it is not going to happen in a day or two. It is also not going to happen in a week or two. It is going to take time. We complained about Square Enix rushing the release of Final Fantasy XIV and we were right. They rushed it, fucked it up and they even accepted their mistake.

Now they are trying to fix their mistake. New producer, new people at strategic spots in the development team. They promised us stuff. They told us to wait. They told us they are working on stuff. They asked our opinion and they said they will work on almost everything we said they should change.

However, all the people that said Square Enix rushed things now all of a sudden wants Square Enix to rush patches. Make up your freaking mind. If that disaster in Japan didn't happen we would have had patch 1.17 by now. Well it happened, get over it. They announced the events will push everything back for about two weeks. Patch 1.16a was scheduled to be released somewhere in the middle of March, instead it was released at the end of March. Patch 1.17 is pushed back to early April. What is the problem? I really do not see it.

I totally agree the game needs changed, the game needs updates, big ones, but hell why rush it while we were complaining for months and cursing Square Enix for rushing the release in the first place?

The human nature is really strange ....

[Evenstar]

I really don't expect much, but I wouldn't mind a quick post about what to expect in a few weeks. Companies are nearly done from how it sounds and we still seem to have zero information. And while the battle system changes are up next it'd be nice to know what will be changed. The drop from 15 to 8 people max in a party? The advanced (traditional) classes? Making classes more unique? There's a ton of stuff that can be touched on when you say "battle adjustments" so it'd be a bit nice on what to expect.

Agree, but all of that should be coming this week or next week. They stated we should get more battle information this week. They also stated information about companies should be released before patch 1.17 (which should be somewhere next week I assume). So all the information we want is already announced and it is coming our way. We just need to wait a little bit longer.

We are right in asking for changes. We are also right in asking more information. Don't get me wrong. However it is exactly like Abriael said. Some people are looking for even the silliest and most out of line excuses to open new threads and spread some negativity. If they really wanted FFXIV to succeed they would just wait and open constructive threads instead of the negative ones they are doing all the time.

There is a difference between
1) Battle system is not well thought. They need to look into this. They should changed A B and C and should make it D and E.

and

2) OMG ROFLCOPTERSAUCE patch 1.16a is so bad, SE should pull the plug already since the obviously suck donkey balls. Portal and Mortal Combat are going to steal thousands of people and the servers will be empty from now on.

Thats my point.

[Corrderio]

I agree with you, if you don't like something at least put effort into not making yourself look like a jackass.