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    Elfidan's Avatar
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Play more RW games, lb generation works early on.
    You're confusing the job speeds with the buff generation increase. DRK is always 105s without the buff and 90s for DRG. That lines up with the center fight. If it's gobby juice your whole team is getting an adrenaline gauge off it if you win. for reference: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../hidden-gorge/

    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Now without lb monks suddenly lose their biggest appeal, summoners just don't apply enough pressure, dragoons are not as meta (still very much are) anymore being significantly less threatening on objectives, same for white mages, dark knights, gunbreakers and so on... LB is centralizing with how you can get it.
    These are some really weird opinions that don't seem too fleshed out. To paraphrase 'People with less damage buff can't do damage against people with damage buff without limit break.' If you focus targets you don't really have to worry about that now do you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Also related to what I said again, the many good players have very much read what their job does lol. And it's not wow players. I'm talking about long time top 100 players, people with 100s of FL behind them, hardcore achievement hunters (and they're good).
    Achievement hunters, like Bill the speed hacking Oppressor pilot? sure.
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    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.

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    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    You're confusing the job speeds with the buff generation increase. DRK is always 105s without the buff and 90s for DRG. That lines up with the center fight. If it's gobby juice your whole team is getting an adrenaline gauge off it if you win. for reference: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../hidden-gorge/


    These are some really weird opinions that don't seem too fleshed out. To paraphrase 'People with less damage buff can't do damage against people with damage buff without limit break.' If you focus targets you don't really have to worry about that now do you?


    Achievement hunters, like Bill the speed hacking Oppressor pilot? sure.
    First point : no... your LB fills upon kills. Really, play more games. Surely you've had lb back to back on an early mid... Check out the discord if you want to learn more.

    Second point : I don't understand what you're implying. Best evidence would be to play those jobs a lot and picture them without their lb.
    "Just focus" is not something that happens in PUG, especially when mechs are often a priority above other specific targets (but the non meta classes are often the targets of good players anyway, since they know that these might not be the most experienced players).

    Third point : oh, you're that guy. There was one speed hacking oppressor a little while ago, got mass reported and hasn't been seen since. Reminds me of someone who complained about win trading in RW lol. These instances are not common and RW players are not stupid. Of course some speed hackers do it in more subtle ways (like arriving mid a sec or two before opponents for an easy drk pull), or you've got the infamous whm's instant polymorph which is not uncommon. But it is what it is, just thoroughly reporting is what I do, and then move on.
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