Where does the idea that Forums are for posting feedback to SE come from?

[Jojoya]

It's for feedback. It's also for community discussion. Someone could leave feedback and the rest of the community has a chance to discuss their own take on the subject.

The Community team probably scans on a regular basis for new topics that may actually include feedback/suggestions on topics that the development team hasn't already addressed in some way. Some may end up missed in the general chaos but we know some do make it to the developers because we've seen responses.

The problem is the players who demand that their thread become an echo chamber supporting their idea and that those who disagree shouldn't post. That's not the way it works. If you can't handle disagreement with your ideas, then don't post them in the official forums. Post them through the Suggestion portion of the Support Desk instead.

[NekoMataMata]

The problem is the players who demand that their thread become an echo chamber supporting their idea and that those who disagree shouldn't post. That's not the way it works. If you can't handle disagreement with your ideas, then don't post them in the official forums. Post them through the Suggestion portion of the Support Desk instead.

Well, that's ironic considering you're from one of the handful of factions around here that tries to stifle any disagreement.

[MsMisato]

oh they take feedback, but you're better off having someone translate your feedback to Japanese and posting it on the Japanese forums.

[SassyAssassin]

oh they take feedback, but you're better off having someone translate your feedback to Japanese and posting it on the Japanese forums.

Pretty much this, we have complaint megathreads that go on for years still without much change.

[Iscah]

Another big company called "A... on" is closing its official forums for a discord forum/discussion channels, thus things could change.

I used to be on the Insomniac Games official forums until they shut it down in favour of a Discord server. I gave up even trying to talk there. It's a miserable substitute for a forum.

[Axxion]

Either I dont remember the Thread this came from, or I simply wasnt there. But to give a reply to this.....

No, this is NOTHING...but a Good Idea. Inventory is pretty small, or at the very least it does fill up very quickly. a Separate Materials Storage is a good idea, that way inventory space doesnt get taken up.
But yes, because we currently dont have this kind of system, you should be keeping a better eye on your inventory and managing it accordingly. And why ARE you hoarding Armor? At least put it away in your retainers, your Chocobo Bag or your Dresser...which has kind of become a glorified Inventory Box Ill admit I put stuff in there cause space.

I support the A idea, but also echo B only because we dont currently have it.

well here you go also forgot to mention. dont forget the housing items

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-own-inventory

also to mentioned to increase space as well.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...nventory-space
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...nventory-space

please note it can be more however these are the only ones that im subscribed to. now there is one that is more recent but i cannot find it. I just need to wait for one person to chime in here and then i can find it

[Mr_Gyactus]

It's a miserable substitute for a forum.

true, but from the company point of view is a win:
- no laws issues
- no moderation to pay
- no hardware costs
- other

[Gemina]

I find nothing in the Forum Welcome to Topic X messages to indicate the various forum topics are an official means of communication with Square Enix developers. Still, I've found a lot of complaints that say developers ignore their feedback, despite the clear topic descriptions that indicate it is for communication between players...

...So, where does the idea that the forums are for posting feedback to SE come from? Was there an official posting or Live Letter comment that lead to this belief? Are players coming from other games simply used to communicating directly with developers? Has feedback in other games' official forums resulted in such great changes that players figure it should work here?

Where else are they going to go? Even without specific mention to come here to leave feedback and suggestions, these are the official discussion forums for FFXIV. People will naturally gravitate here to mention what is on their minds.

The disconnect comes from thinking that as far as suggestions and feedback goes, that this is the place to go to communicate directly with the dev team. In terms of that, this place is nothing more than a 'suggestions box' in the company breakroom. The term echo chamber doesn't necessarily derive from posters parroting off of each other, but rather that your shouts echo from the vastness of the void, and are to be heard by anyone within your vicinity rather than the devs themselves. It's the term "hivemind" that applies only to those who just repeat what is heard instead of challenging it with their own critical thinking.

What's said here that actually makes it to the dev team is anyone's guess. But to say that none of it does is erroneous thinking, especially when a person's specific suggestion or complaint is not addressed. It is not the job of the dev team to cater to every single person with the next 'ground breaking' idea to add or change the game with. Nor are they obligated to succumb or apologize to a mob of dissatisfied players within its community. When they actually eff something up such as Hrothgar hairstyles, or the last raid series. That kind of feedback is responded to very quickly and addressed. If you're going to talk about how you're going to unsub if they don't bring Kaiten back? Well, I guess "Bye Felicia".