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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Quite frankly, Im actually very surprised that the biggest reveal was elided over..or trampled on in the rush. Id expected people to be excited with this live letter. Whilst it remains a WIP, the fact that IS is a huge step forward in giving us something that has been asked for and about for years..instanced housing.

    Yes a lot still needs to be done, the offline visits for example..but in all truth, with the huge changes announced last night, I am somewhat amazed that no one has twigged to whats ahead. This alone may very well take the pressure off housing wards, so really, that this got missed is somewhat...odd. Looking at some of the constant whining over "having to stay subbed or lose your house", I was expecting more of a huge sigh of relief..or delight..over this item.

    Nothing is perfect, it never is..all i can say is Discord was berserk when they saw this, a lot of VERY happy people.

    Unlike the negative Nancies here, 6.4 looks to to me like a very fun patch with more to come. Its a huge step, and one I thought would generate more pleasure than pain. But these are the forums.."Toxic positivity" is a buzzword used to shout down or shut up people who dare go against the hate some seem to have for the game.

    Ive said this before , it still holds true.

    Doesnt matter what the devs do..some of you will never be happy or satisfied.
    There's a fear in the back of my head that SE/CBU 3 is actually so stubborn that they'll not take advantage of what basically is the reality of being 1 step away from instanced housing for every player who finished the 6.0 MSQ. It seems so obvious.. so right there for the taking. And part of me feels like they'll fail to capitalize on it because of some silly, misguided notion of "ward community soul" or "prestige" to current housing. By the gods, CBU3, don't make the mistake of throwing potential in the bin simply to appeal to something so nebulous and ultimately intangible, if at all extant to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliaStormblade View Post
    There's a fear in the back of my head that SE/CBU 3 is actually so stubborn that they'll not take advantage of what basically is the reality of being 1 step away from instanced housing for every player who finished the 6.0 MSQ. It seems so obvious.. so right there for the taking. And part of me feels like they'll fail to capitalize on it because of some silly, misguided notion of "ward community soul" or "prestige" to current housing. By the gods, CBU3, don't make the mistake of throwing potential in the bin simply to appeal to something so nebulous and ultimately intangible, if at all extant to begin with.
    I can already feel the monkey's paw curling.
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    Dunno about other people but im really hype and excited for 6.4! Especially MSQ (im a sucker for msq) and as a ff4 fan, almost time to face Golbez! I been waiting for this moment the trailer is fire af i cant wait !
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliaStormblade View Post
    There's a fear in the back of my head that SE/CBU 3 is actually so stubborn that they'll not take advantage of what basically is the reality of being 1 step away from instanced housing for every player who finished the 6.0 MSQ. It seems so obvious.. so right there for the taking. And part of me feels like they'll fail to capitalize on it because of some silly, misguided notion of "ward community soul" or "prestige" to current housing. By the gods, CBU3, don't make the mistake of throwing potential in the bin simply to appeal to something so nebulous and ultimately intangible, if at all extant to begin with.
    I wouldn't expect on getting instanced indoor housing from Island Sanctuary. I think to SE, this is a way to rectify the problem of regular players not being able to interact with outdoor furnishing at all unless they own a house. It's been a huge complaint for years that events give away housing items that a lot of people cannot use at all in any capacity. Apartments are generally readily available for most players, so indoor housing hasn't been seen as an issue in that same way to the developers, IMO. They also recently added more housing wards, making me think that if instanced indoor housing was in the works at all, they wouldn't have added more wards.

    That's not to say I wouldn't fully welcome instanced housing from Island Sanctuary though! I just don't think that we can expect it when housing as it is at the moment is a system that is meant to retain subscriptions.
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  5. #95
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    That's not to say I wouldn't fully welcome instanced housing from Island Sanctuary though! I just don't think that we can expect it when housing as it is at the moment is a system that is meant to retain subscriptions.
    Thats drawing a very long bow. Sorry, but disagree. I look at it from this standpoint..they are well aware of the housing issue, the idea of instanced housing has been raised before, they came up with the island as an alternative and are now working to make it happen. Housing is not a "snare to keep players subbed", but as time went on the limitations have become more acute, so this is their plan moving forward.

    I find it elegant and brilliant, its a long term solution to a growing problem...btw, in case it had escaped you, this is also a masterstroke as guess what it now neutralises..the bot issue. You wont see bots or bot groups buying up islands en masse now, will you?

    Some plans arent done overnight, I recommend we wait, as from what i can see here this IS a damned good idea. Implementation will take time, agreed. It doesnt help to ascribe sinister or ulterior motives where none exist..Id also say the massive influx we have had for the last few years has caught them all as a surprise, which exacerbated a problem that hadnt BEEN a major issue..up until now.

    Did they get caught unawares? Id say yes, so the entire system had to be revised and a new alternative found.

    I counsel patience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Thats drawing a very long bow. Sorry, but disagree. I look at it from this standpoint..they are well aware of the housing issue, the idea of instanced housing has been raised before, they came up with the island as an alternative and are now working to make it happen. Housing is not a "snare to keep players subbed", but as time went on the limitations have become more acute, so this is their plan moving forward.

    I find it elegant and brilliant, its a long term solution to a growing problem...btw, in case it had escaped you, this is also a masterstroke as guess what it now neutralises..the bot issue. You wont see bots or bot groups buying up islands en masse now, will you?

    Some plans arent done overnight, I recommend we wait, as from what i can see here this IS a damned good idea. Implementation will take time, agreed. It doesnt help to ascribe sinister or ulterior motives where none exist..Id also say the massive influx we have had for the last few years has caught them all as a surprise, which exacerbated a problem that hadnt BEEN a major issue..up until now.

    Did they get caught unawares? Id say yes, so the entire system had to be revised and a new alternative found.

    I counsel patience.
    This sounds nice and all but holy hell are you making some huge assumptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulvi View Post
    Why are you triggered by the fact that somebody likes the upcoming patch and enjoys the game? How is it toxic positivity if we enjoy what we pay for?
    prob should have read the 10 other posts that explained it buddy, it aint genuine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    I wouldn't expect on getting instanced indoor housing from Island Sanctuary. I think to SE, this is a way to rectify the problem of regular players not being able to interact with outdoor furnishing at all unless they own a house. It's been a huge complaint for years that events give away housing items that a lot of people cannot use at all in any capacity. Apartments are generally readily available for most players, so indoor housing hasn't been seen as an issue in that same way to the developers, IMO. They also recently added more housing wards, making me think that if instanced indoor housing was in the works at all, they wouldn't have added more wards.

    That's not to say I wouldn't fully welcome instanced housing from Island Sanctuary though! I just don't think that we can expect it when housing as it is at the moment is a system that is meant to retain subscriptions.
    IMO, given the apartments- what is a logical next step is attaching a door in the sanctuary to your apartment. Then upgrading the apartment system over time till the housing interior and apartment interior system are just one and the same. If they need an in-between step, I believe attaching existing inn rooms in the game would be another great option- technically some players might prefer an inn room since it's already decorated and not everyone has the decorating spirit but still wants something nice looking.

    The latter bit about being used to hold players emotionally hostage is potentially possible though naturally something they could never admit without looking really bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    prob should have read the 10 other posts that explained it buddy, it aint genuine.
    You should as well
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post6249191
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    This sounds nice and all but holy hell are you making some huge assumptions.
    Ive looked it all over, gone back to when it started. the progression and additional content placed has seemed to follow a pattern or plan, I cannot remember where but I DO remember a passing comment on instanced housing...there was a lot in the liveletter but I do recall it...just not sure when.

    I may be wrong..but its an educated guess. We will have to wait.
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