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  1. #31
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    No one going to throw in “why are mages still defined by the color of their spells”. I’m unimpressed by this thread.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoodcat View Post
    No one going to throw in “why are mages still defined by the color of their spells”. I’m unimpressed by this thread.
    Right? Why are all the black mages painted as aggressive murder hobos and all the White Mages are these saints that want to save everyone?
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  3. #33
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    I think it's because the Japanese see themselves as White, have you seen anime? like Look at Sailor moon, clearly a blonde headed girl with blue eyes can't be "Caucasian"


    Also In Japan, you have to be " Fair and White" skinned to be beautiful


    you also have to be thin and petite, because being "overweight" by their standard isn't considered attractive



    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...bias/27837613/

    just like this model who lives in Japan is harassed for being dark skinned

    if you ain't fair skinned, you ain't right
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Sounds like a position of which contributes nothing to society other than incite hatred between different groups of people and produce trained victims.
    Diversity and inclusion is the exact opposite of training people to be victims. It's to empower minority voices by giving them a platform. Something that is done through the government, through corporations, and now through media. If you want to fight against the moral arc of the universe, you will find little company in polite society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    It's a fantasy world and they can put whoever they want as main characters. It's a damn stupid take to force RL standards bleed into such games.

    Go address this in the actual world where it actually matters and is a problem instead to letting SE resort to pandering.
    But games actually DO affect real life. Minorities who see themselves represented in media will become more likely to learn from these role models as they grow up. So yes, even in a fantasy land, representation is important.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    I think it's because the Japanese see themselves as White, have you seen anime? like Look at Sailor moon, clearly a blonde headed girl with blue eyes can't be "Caucasian"


    Also In Japan, you have to be " Fair and White" skinned to be beautiful


    you also have to be thin and petite, because being "overweight" by their standard isn't considered attractive



    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...bias/27837613/

    just like this model who lives in Japan is harassed for being dark skinned

    if you ain't fair skinned, you ain't right
    It's very unfortunate that parts of their culture contains these attitudes of colorism, but with Square Enix taking a stand for LGBT in FF16, I think we can absolutely be optimistic that SE will listen to the desires for PoC inclusion in FF14. After all they've already done so in FF7, FF9, FF10, FF12, FF13...
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post


    I am at a complete loss of words when I saw this image. This is colorism, pure and simple.
    My dude it just looks like she stopped hanging out around waking sands and instead hung out at libraries.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    But games actually DO affect real life. Minorities who see themselves represented in media will become more likely to learn from these role models as they grow up. So yes, even in a fantasy land, representation is important.
    Yes. I'm sure there are a great many people who wish to identify as a bipedal talking elephant. And if they choose to either wear brightly coloured robes, or refuse to wear anything at all, we should respect that too.

    I also feel that we should not view the inability of those who identify as a Dragon to breathe fire as a disability.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    My dude it just looks like she stopped hanging out around waking sands and instead hung out at libraries.
    That and a couple trips through the aether current probably didn't help her skintone either.
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  10. #40
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    When do we get the people of color who are gay and trans seasonal event? Come on SE, it's almost JUNE! /s
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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