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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Is she really? Can you post pics on the evolution. For all the trolling and I really couldn't care less what color people they present to me actively changing someone's skin tone once they already exist does seem kinda bad lol.


    I am at a complete loss of words when I saw this image. This is colorism, pure and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post


    I am at a complete loss of words when I saw this image. This is colorism, pure and simple.
    Hmmmm yeah that looks sus. Well you found an actual bad move from SE in a thread that I thought had little to go on. I am disappointed in SE NGL.

    While I am of the opinion that I don't like diversity for the sake of diversity so long as the story is good and doesn't disparage others since propaganda gets really tiring, I can say changing anyone's skin color when they already exist is in poor taste.
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    It's a fantasy world and they can put whoever they want as main characters. It's a damn stupid take to force RL standards bleed into such games.

    Go address this in the actual world where it actually matters and is a problem instead to letting SE resort to pandering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    You could have at least given it a day or 2 before you took the Advice to go back to your old trolling style.
    Right off the bat Im already like...

    I'll take it, this is far more entertaining and just what we needed. Vintage TitanMen, accept no substitute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    It's a fantasy world and they can put whoever they want as main characters. It's a damn stupid take to force RL standards bleed into such games.

    Go address this in the actual world where it actually matters and is a problem instead to letting SE resort to pandering.
    But games actually DO affect real life. Minorities who see themselves represented in media will become more likely to learn from these role models as they grow up. So yes, even in a fantasy land, representation is important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    But games actually DO affect real life. Minorities who see themselves represented in media will become more likely to learn from these role models as they grow up. So yes, even in a fantasy land, representation is important.
    Yes. I'm sure there are a great many people who wish to identify as a bipedal talking elephant. And if they choose to either wear brightly coloured robes, or refuse to wear anything at all, we should respect that too.

    I also feel that we should not view the inability of those who identify as a Dragon to breathe fire as a disability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Hmmmm yeah that looks sus. Well you found an actual bad move from SE in a thread that I thought had little to go on. I am disappointed in SE NGL.

    While I am of the opinion that I don't like diversity for the sake of diversity so long as the story is good and doesn't disparage others since propaganda gets really tiring, I can say changing anyone's skin color when they already exist is in poor taste.
    Behold suntan. She went from 2,5 to 2,4 which makes sense if she’s been kept underground for a couple of years. I dunno incompetence seems an easier explanation here - as with everything else in endwalker it wasn’t thought through properly and they just didn’t put the skin back when returned to the source.
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