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  1. #4211
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    The only thing I am, and many are worried about are the Heads / Faces. If they will look like real Counterparts to the Males or not.
    Everything else like the Body isnt as important...even if Im Team FemRoe Body. If they arn't "built" then its not the end of the World. Same with the Hempen Piece...even if I can agree the FemRoe one really sucks.
    The only thing I think we should "Expect More: out of the devs...is that they finally have the Headgear situation Figured out, or Mostly at least. Because we know not everything will fit the Hrothgar head unless they make 2nd versions, or create Unique Lv1 Gear Ive mentioned before.
    Personally i think it would be nice to get one woman who looks like "warrior of light" material instead of miss "i keep myself in shape to bag a hot boyfriend". Not that i'm delusional enough to believe.
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  2. #4212
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Look man, some Hrothgar are just Old Fashioned and are still in touch with their roots



    ......But if anybody ever offers to Brush, you NEVER turn that down.
    Ok but uh…….now it’s my turn
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  3. #4213
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Ok but uh…….now it’s my turn

    Verry well...

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    This has been on my mind for some time now, but I do hope that they approach fem hroth with the same approach that AreaNet did with female charr with it comes to breasts.
    I had an interesting conversation with a friend about how we like to humanise things that are meant to be bestial. Even more so when it comes to the female counterpart.
    More than likely they will have breasts because of the models and female chest gear being pretty much the same across races.
    But it would be nice if the bestial race thing was at least followed in this regard let alone hands and feet already being human Dx
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  5. #4215
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    This has been on my mind for some time now, but I do hope that they approach fem hroth with the same approach that AreaNet did with female charr with it comes to breasts.
    I had an interesting conversation with a friend about how we like to humanise things that are meant to be bestial. Even more so when it comes to the female counterpart.
    More than likely they will have breasts because of the models and female chest gear being pretty much the same across races.
    But it would be nice if the bestial race thing was at least followed in this regard let alone hands and feet already being human Dx
    Charr are built to be more beast than human. While Hrothgar are more human than beast (in the body proportion), so I don't think it's a fair comparison. They are inspired by the Ronso from FFX. We can see clearly that female Ronso have human proportions, they look like female Roe but with more curves (bigger ass and chest, with a smaller waist). They will not have 6 nips, just like the males they will have a human body with a *hopefully cartoonish lion head.
    What we hope they will keep is the beast aspect like the males with a Beast head.

    If you want to compare it with another race that would not be charr, but Khajiit from ESO, where males and females look like the same species, have the same beast head with human body proportion.

    They didn't give Hrothgar beast hands and legs for the same reason they didn't give Viera their claw hands and feet. They didn't want to remodel all legs, arms and headpieces for this races. So they went with the easiest route of giving them human hands and feet and only had to remodel the headpieces (which we all know how that turned out).

    My hope is that they will take inspiration from the FFX series with the female Ronso as models and give them an FFXIV spin:



    Something like this:

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  6. #4216
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    Charr are built to be more beast than human. While Hrothgar are more human than beast (in the body proportion), so I don't think it's a fair comparison.
    Charr and Hrothgar share a lot of the same base traits which make them beast races: fur, fangs, leonine/feline facial anatomy, eyes, curved spines, tail, and if SE modeled them correctly ( as according to lore and the official artwork hrothgar have claws and sharp nails on their feet) claws.
    If you also look closely at a Hrothgar you can see they have the same ratio of longer torso to leg height.

    In the ratio of human traits : bestial traits, hrothgar's bestial traits outnumber it's human ones.

    Beastraces like the Ixal, Amalj'aa, Sagahin who have humanoid proportions also share their counterparts' animalistic traits and yet do not have breasts for the females.

    On a scale of Charr to Hyur, Hrothgar are more equatable to Charr as a Miqo'te is to Hyur.

    It's a fair comparison.
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  7. #4217
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    Charr are built to be more beast than human. While Hrothgar are more human than beast (in the body proportion), so I don't think it's a fair comparison. They are inspired by the Ronso from FFX. We can see clearly that female Ronso have human proportions, they look like female Roe but with more curves (bigger ass and chest, with a smaller waist). They will not have 6 nips, just like the males they will have a human body with a *hopefully cartoonish lion head.
    What we hope they will keep is the beast aspect like the males with a Beast head.

    If you want to compare it with another race that would not be charr, but Khajiit from ESO, where males and females look like the same species, have the same beast head with human body proportion.

    They didn't give Hrothgar beast hands and legs for the same reason they didn't give Viera their claw hands and feet. They didn't want to remodel all legs, arms and headpieces for this races. So they went with the easiest route of giving them human hands and feet and only had to remodel the headpieces (which we all know how that turned out).

    My hope is that they will take inspiration from the FFX series with the female Ronso as models and give them an FFXIV spin:



    Something like this:

    Yeah, okay, sure, whatever. So there's nothing that would be against them looking like they could beat someone in a fight rather than the usual JRPG heroine of "my arms are this small but my aether is THIS BIG.

    And no, i don't mean they need to be an exact copy of men. Just give them a little extra meat, for crying out loud.
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  8. #4218
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    It's a fair comparison.
    I disagree. Hrothgar are mainly human with their only distinction being their fur patches and head. They do not have claws unless they equip them through their race gear or put on the claws of the beast. Their lore means nothing if it can plainly be seen as wrong by looking at the in game model. And their scoliosis is just unfortunate.

    As I said, it is not a fair comparison when we have Ronso to look at. And their females DO have a chest. So no 6 nips or flat. Plus if they were to do that they would have to go and remodel every single chest piece to acomodate for the 6 nips. Which we know from the hair and hats situation they are very reluctant/slow to do.

    I do not have anything against you and you are more than welcome to voice your opinion. Sorry if I came off as aggressive in my earlier post. I am just very passionate about the subject since Ronso are my favourite race in all of FF franchise so when I saw that we might get them in 14 I was extremely happy only to get saddened by the exclusion of the females. Lets hope that we will see and enjoy them in 7.0.
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  9. #4219
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misplaced_Marbles View Post
    Yeah, okay, sure, whatever. So there's nothing that would be against them looking like they could beat someone in a fight rather than the usual JRPG heroine of "my arms are this small but my aether is THIS BIG.

    And no, i don't mean they need to be an exact copy of men. Just give them a little extra meat, for crying out loud.
    So... a modified fem Roe body. Which is exactley what a majority of us want.

    I too hate that stereotype of "she may be small and cute, but she has X thing to empower her so she could totaly beat everyone up! No seriously, stop laughing!" ( I also like to call that trope as the writers barely disguised fetish). There is nothing wrong with a strongly built woman. My current favourite race in game is Fem Roe for the simple reason that they look capable. Personally I would like female Hrothgar to be built like a female canoeist. But as long as they look like an appropriate counterpart for Male Hrothgar, I will be content.
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  10. #4220
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    I disagree. Hrothgar are mainly human with their only distinction being their fur patches and head. They do not have claws unless they equip them through their race gear or put on the claws of the beast. Their lore means nothing if it can plainly be seen as wrong by looking at the in game model. And their scoliosis is just unfortunate.

    As I said, it is not a fair comparison when we have Ronso to look at. And their females DO have a chest. So no 6 nips or flat. Plus if they were to do that they would have to go and remodel every single chest piece to acomodate for the 6 nips. Which we know from the hair and hats situation they are very reluctant/slow to do.

    I do not have anything against you and you are more than welcome to voice your opinion. Sorry if I came off as aggressive in my earlier post. I am just very passionate about the subject since Ronso are my favourite race in all of FF franchise so when I saw that we might get them in 14 I was extremely happy only to get saddened by the exclusion of the females. Lets hope that we will see and enjoy them in 7.0.
    It's not an affront to disagree or to be passionate. Just remember that Hrothgar aren't Ronso.
    I've also been wanting to play them and vouching for them here on the forum for the past 4 years now, so you're not alone.
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