Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
I can see the point of not wanting a tank with ego to decide for the party but I think on the flip side it can hurt people just trying to get through the content. I remember a particular P5N run back near launch where I was on DNC and we had a lot of new folks. I was one of the few left alive each time we wiped. We tried to help explain. It just was something wasn't clicking so most were really struggling. It happened about 3 times. On the fourth try, the two tanks and I took him down from 40% ourselves. It took a bit, but the party was cheering us on and having a good time with it. I know you had mainly mentioned EX but some on the thread had also mentioned normal content. SE has added enrages here and there even to normal content and they're generally not a bottleneck so I think they just need to be careful how tight they make things so they're not punishing players really trying just for the random egotistical tank.
Yeah, I think one of the most compelling arguments thus far has been this is actually a rare occurrence, and most tanks will just kill themselves in such situations, but I think this is mostly because they know it will likely be faster to reset than to solo the boss themselves. I can understand the mindset of just wanting to get out of there if the group keeps failing. However, this brings back up what I pointed out earlier about the strong dislike voiced by the community for carries, and players who refuse to get better.

I know for me, if I am having trouble with a particular duty or mechanic, I can't live down getting the clear anyway. It bothers me like nothing else in this game. So even with a green checkmark I will throw my butt back into that duty until I learn it. A redemption run, if you will. I know I can't expect all players to be like this, or even force this on them especially in NM duties. I've been in this situation as a tank several times, and it causes me a serious dilemma on whether it would be better for me to reset, or finish the boss off myself. One of the reasons for my suggestion is to also not thrust any other players into having to make that decision. It sucks!