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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    Sorry but this is peak FF14 fanboy. "WoW bad am i right?"

    Its a multiplayer game, they all have toxicity problem. Just in different forms or towards a different group

    I play both, i rarely experience toxicity in WoW. 1) Because i dont consider getting called dumb as toxic and 2) i can pull my weight so people have no reason to get mad at me.

    Yes you wont get yelled at for playing 3000 hours and still failing your 1-2-3 combo in FF14. But ever dare to imply the story is meh at best, or ever expect someone to put in bare minimum effort in a dungeon run. Lets not forget LazyPeon (dont even like him) getting death threats for daring to skip the story cause he got bored by it.
    This is lazy approach to trying to compare the communities. Let's look at more everyday approach new players wanting to tank, you enter a Max level dungeon as a new tank in WoW you are more likely to be kicked and replaced than in final fantasy because you won't know the optimal route or the optimal way to pull trash on the way to the boss and it'll be considered wasting others time. Let's compare LFR to alliance in LFR if you wipe generally 60% of that group is gone no one sticks around. It WoW bad yea, don't s*** on your community for multiple expansions and be called good, is everything bad no raids are still generally good and fun, it is better in PvP but it really doesn't take care of that community at all. But as far as community the games aren't even close
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  2. #442
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    Quote Originally Posted by galbsadi View Post
    You, um, do realize that the biggest socialist program in the world is the US military, right?
    A program is not entirely country is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    These people are the unique WoW Exodus shavings we got left over that unfortunately decided to stay in XIV.

    They're so upset with WoW, that their hatred shines the brightest light on XIV, no matter it's faults. In their eyes, they don't come close to WoW's toxicity dredged into all systems and all people. XIV can do no wrong, and WoW can do no right. Even if Yoshi-P himself pissed directly into his mouth. He'd thank him for the lemonade, and argue WoW has never quenched his thirst so effectively.
    You are a idiot not just from this dumb assumption but from a collective of your post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    That's the big issue. DC travel has really murdered the games community at this point. So why not do something radical? I had said previously that I think Cross DC queuing should be a thing, and I think the current problem with everyone clustering on certain servers isn't helping. Currently outside of housing, Dynamis is a net loss for the player. Our economy sucks, our queues suck and our population sucks. And what makes it worse is that leaving is always the best choice. And at that point, why play here? Outside of housing, I don't see it. Again, it's a net loss. If my FC disbanded, I would leave. This place is a joke.
    Or people could start staying on Dynamis and having their friends from other data centers come visit them instead of the other way around.

    They're not going to see improvement in the things they're complaining about if they won't stay on the data center to contribute to the improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Or people could start staying on Dynamis and having their friends from other data centers come visit them instead of the other way around.

    They're not going to see improvement in the things they're complaining about if they won't stay on the data center to contribute to the improvement.
    Tell that to everyone who leaves. It's more feasible in the short term to leave. And that's what people are going to do. Which is bad in the long term. DC travel is great, but it's really causing some issues community wise. The server identity is dead. I know the architecture maybe can't support it, but outside of incentives to stay, these servers are going to stay dead.

    Now, what they should've done is make 3 servers and add them to the existing data centers. That would have been a better allocation of resources than what they did do. And what kind of crap show will it be when they add 4 more?

    I'm speaking in the now as someone who has been on Dynamis since the beginning. It hasn't really gotten better, and most people are still leaving. I started doing Eureka, and I refuse to play in empty instances with bots. Dynamis be damned.

    So what should we do? Pay the same for a lesser experience? Or go anywhere else to have a better one?

    I'm not trying to be mean, but this pie in the sky, everything will be better with 7.0 shtick is getting old. What happens when it's not better? What happens when Dynamis stays dead?

    This company is a joke. The community is selfish, but that's not a new thing. They just hide behind the passive-aggressive wall they've built around themselves.
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    Last edited by Ardeth; 05-09-2023 at 06:47 AM.

  6. #446
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    They should just mix up the datacenters again. Move a few of the larger ones to Dynamis that would help it out.
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  7. #447
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    They should just mix up the datacenters again. Move a few of the larger ones to Dynamis that would help it out.
    That is actually a smart idea, could do it in like 7.0 shuffle some of the servers and who is in each dc. Idk if they could do that cuz of coding and all but it would change things up
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    Or, and this is just an idea:

    If you don't want to be there then don't. If you do then do. Instead of trying to shuffle around Dyna, why not just transfer out if you're unhappy and leave those who stay to be happy?

    It really bothers me tbh that since it's not on the exact same level as their original DC that some people just want to burn Dyna to the ground and screw over everyone else who is fine with how it is.

    The people who are still there *want* to be there and I haven't had any issues getting queues lately. If it's not good enough for you then don't stay, easiest solution in my opinion. We have plenty of faces who have been there since Day 1 and don't plan to leave.

    The reality is every DC is bleeding people to Aether and this is just the consequences of giving data centers identities and wanting convenience over creating a healthy DC balance. This is the new situation and we kinda got to deal with it. Nuking Dyna to the ground won't stop that from happening.

    Thank you kindly.
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  9. #449
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Or, and this is just an idea:

    If you don't want to be there then don't. If you do then do. Instead of trying to shuffle around Dyna, why not just transfer out if you're unhappy and leave those who stay to be happy?

    It really bothers me tbh that since it's not on the exact same level as their original DC that some people just want to burn Dyna to the ground and screw over everyone else who is fine with how it is.

    The people who are still there *want* to be there and I haven't had any issues getting queues lately. If it's not good enough for you then don't stay, easiest solution in my opinion. We have plenty of faces who have been there since Day 1 and don't plan to leave.

    The reality is every DC is bleeding people to Aether and this is just the consequences of giving data centers identities and wanting convenience over creating a healthy DC balance. This is the new situation and we kinda got to deal with it. Nuking Dyna to the ground won't stop that from happening.

    Thank you kindly.
    I'm not unhappy with dynamis I just wish it had a better population other than 1-2hr wait for alliance raids or pretty much never get a pvp pop. Also shuffling around DC servers would end bleeding over to Aether as it's population would be broken up and spread out (now I'm sure it would just hop to another server eventually but it would be a short term fix). Honestly my honest opinion they should either axe DC travel or if you are DC travel for over X amount of hours a week you lose your house and are removed from your fc, if you are the fc leader it is disbanded but that's a bit too harsh for some people.
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  10. #450
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcg55ss View Post
    I'm not unhappy with dynamis I just wish it had a better population other than 1-2hr wait for alliance raids or pretty much never get a pvp pop. Also shuffling around DC servers would end bleeding over to Aether as it's population would be broken up and spread out (now I'm sure it would just hop to another server eventually but it would be a short term fix). Honestly my honest opinion they should either axe DC travel or if you are DC travel for over X amount of hours a week you lose your house and are removed from your fc, if you are the fc leader it is disbanded but that's a bit too harsh for some people.
    Nuke DC travel imo. Would make the game a lot healthier.

    People want convenience and DC travel for queues instead of staying to help populate their own. It's unfortunate. In the present circumstances all you can really do is wait out the queue or go somewhere else for pvp/alliance raid and then come back for the rest.
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