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  1. #31
    Player R041's Avatar
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    Oidi Grey
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    Firstly, telling someone to "play another game" or "unsubscribe then" is dismissive and unhelpful. It's okay to be critical of a game or express dissatisfaction with it, especially when you're paying for a subscription. Players have a right to voice their opinions and concerns.

    Saying that "the game was always like this" doesn't mean that it can't be improved. Developers should always strive to make their games better, and player feedback can be invaluable in achieving that goal. Dismissing feedback by saying that "you didn't even give suggestions" is also unhelpful, as players shouldn't be expected to provide detailed solutions to every problem they encounter.

    Claiming that "it's just a small minority" of players who are unhappy with the game is a sweeping statement that may not be accurate. Even if only a small percentage of players are vocal about their complaints, that doesn't mean that the issues they raise are insignificant or unimportant.

    Suggesting that "Steam charts mean nothing" or "nobody watches Twitch" is not entirely true. Player population and engagement are important indicators of a game's health and longevity, and can provide valuable insights for developers.

    Saying that "I never liked that content creator anyway" is not a valid argument against criticism, as players should be allowed to listen to a variety of perspectives and form their own opinions.

    Claiming that "I like it better this way" or "I still have so much content to do" doesn't address the concerns that other players may have. It's important to consider the experiences of other players and recognize that their opinions may differ from your own.

    Stating that "housing is a luxury" or "I don't want that, it gives me FOMO" ignores the fact that housing is a core feature of the game that many players enjoy. It's understandable that some players may not prioritize housing, but it's important to recognize that it's a significant part of the game for others.

    Suggesting that "just datacenter hop" is a solution to server issues overlooks the fact that players may have established communities and relationships on their current server, or may not want to deal with the hassle of transferring characters and items.

    While it's understandable to have a defensive stance towards a game that you enjoy, it's important to recognize and address valid criticisms and concerns that other players may have. Dismissing feedback and opinions outright can lead to an unproductive and toxic environment.
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    Last edited by R041; 05-08-2023 at 07:53 AM.

  2. #32
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post


    The red is a lot of what my more thought out posts are.
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  3. #33
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    I think most are happy. The forums are a severe minority and the Discord isn't official and it's run by a lot of bad people.

    This is no barometer of happy or unhappy. But Balmung failed to sell enough cactpot tickets to get all ranks for the first time I can remember. Also let it synch in that everyone gets to buy three. So Balmung couldn't even get a thousand players to buy tickets.
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  4. #34
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    I think the thing thats scary about this is 6.4 is likely the last meaningful update of Endwalker, and thats solely because its the last savage tier.

    There is basically nothing for the game after that, the next year is going to be rough.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I think the thing thats scary about this is 6.4 is likely the last meaningful update of Endwalker, and thats solely because its the last savage tier.

    There is basically nothing for the game after that, the next year is going to be rough.
    Literally, just have to take the advice and play other games. I always took breaks (by choice), so it hasn't been as much of an adjustment for me, but for players that this is their main or only game, yeah I can see it being a difficult. It's unfortunate. It definitely isn't healthy for the game.

    I should reiterate, this isn't me saying "go play other games", I don't think going to play other games is an answer to there being no content. People should only take breaks when they choose to, not because there is nothing to do in a game they pay a subscription for.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 05-08-2023 at 07:22 AM.
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  6. #36
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliaStormblade View Post
    All that means is that he wants the next relic step to feel just as fluid and organic to what players will naturally gravitate towards during endgame gameplay as tomes.

    Could mean more tomes, could mean a currency from endgame relevant activities (I hope), but we don't know either way until we see it. Of course, the people of the forum do know better. They know everything.
    My bet, with the BLU increase, is going to be bi-color gemstones. 1000 per relic.

    Ya'll wanted a grind. Go for it. Enjoy boring fates until your eyes bleed.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    My bet, with the BLU increase, is going to be bi-color gemstones. 1000 per relic.

    Ya'll wanted a grind. Go for it. Enjoy boring fates until your eyes bleed.
    I like how we are at the state, where grind can only be one of two extremes: too much, or non-existent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    I think the thing thats scary about this is 6.4 is likely the last meaningful update of Endwalker, and thats solely because its the last savage tier.

    There is basically nothing for the game after that, the next year is going to be rough.
    I can't help but wonder if this apparent uptick in activity (in every sense of the word) on the forums is precisely for that reason, combined with the Free Login campaign.

    I know more than a few members (myself included) who have become fatigued with the game's increasingly glaring flaws have professed to sticking around simply to see how Pandaemonium pans out, not just because the story is one of the few interesting parts of the game left, but because that really will mark the end of the Ancients' story, and many of us who were let down by how they were treated in Endwalker are still, perhaps vainly, hoping for a more satisfying conclusion. I'm curious to see what will happen to the game/ forums after the patch drops in light of that, as I really don't see myself staying beyond then, being as it's all that kept me scarcely tethered to the game this far, and I'm wondering just how many people are of a similar mindset. I suppose we shall see!
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  9. #39
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    Jordan Lore
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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    I'm used to seeing the official forums be mostly positive.
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    Laevenia Wir'galvus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Watch who is posting and when, and not just what is being posted, and you'll find that a lot of old posts are being stirred up (and new ones started) by a small number of people.
    This feels like a very conspiratorial thing to say.
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