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  1. #101
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    They just need more engagement with the community team, and for them to pass feedback on in a cordial manner, without the added nonsense that some are inclined to add.

    For better or worse, with communities like the one our forum has... Direct communication from and with the developers is a very silly idea.
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    At this point this is becoming a toxic relationship between the playerbase on this forum vs the Developers.
    There is no relationship on this forum between the player base and the developers, other than both players and developers of the game exist.

    The forums are a place for official announcements (you know, in that section marked INFORMATION in the English forums), technical support (in that section marked TECHNICAL SUPPORT in the English forums), bug reports (in that section marked BUG REPORTS in the English forums), letters from the producer (in that section ... yada yada).

    It is also a place for players to discuss the game with other players. The "sticky post" for this part of the forum (and most of the other non-SE sections) reads "The purpose of this forum is for players to discuss various topics on FINAL FANTASY XIV with other players." Likewise, the Lore section sticky reads "The purpose of this forum is for players to discuss various topics on the lore of Eorzea with other players."

    None of these sections is billed as a place for players to communicate directly with the developers. Nor is there a promise, implied or otherwise, that developers or other SE personnel will read the posts for anything except determining if things are civil and in-bounds. They appear to look at reports about particular thread posts and act accordingly, hence threads or posts or posters disappearing.

    Now that this is out of the way, have a pleasant day.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    There is no relationship on this forum between the player base and the developers, other than both players and developers of the game exist.

    The forums are a place for official announcements (you know, in that section marked INFORMATION in the English forums), technical support (in that section marked TECHNICAL SUPPORT in the English forums), bug reports (in that section marked BUG REPORTS in the English forums), letters from the producer (in that section ... yada yada).

    It is also a place for players to discuss the game with other players. The "sticky post" for this part of the forum (and most of the other non-SE sections) reads "The purpose of this forum is for players to discuss various topics on FINAL FANTASY XIV with other players." Likewise, the Lore section sticky reads "The purpose of this forum is for players to discuss various topics on the lore of Eorzea with other players."

    None of these sections is billed as a place for players to communicate directly with the developers. Nor is there a promise, implied or otherwise, that developers or other SE personnel will read the posts for anything except determining if things are civil and in-bounds. They appear to look at reports about particular thread posts and act accordingly, hence threads or posts or posters disappearing.

    Now that this is out of the way, have a pleasant day.
    There is no relationship in America between the citizens and the government, other than both citizens and government exist.

    The Constitution does not bill America as a place for innovation, growth, access to healthcare, stability. Nor is there a promise, implied or otherwise in the Constitution, that the President or any other government personell will engage with citizens for anything except determining if they have committed crimes.

    Now this is out of the way, have a pleasant day.
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliaStormblade View Post
    It's Titanmen.

    What do you think?
    Yea, I know. I think I'll take the good advice to just start using the forum ignore feature. The trick will be catching all of the alts.
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  5. #105
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    North America is like 50% of the player base, 30% in Europe, all countries where English is the first or second language, they should pay more at the toon to us, square wouldn’t exist today without the non-Japanese market
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picker View Post
    square wouldn’t exist today without the non-Japanese market
    That assertion is bold and brash, and typically North American. In other words, it is spurred by the belief that a company cannot be successful unless it is global in reach. Why this response? Because such bold assertion without actual thought is nothing more than hyperbole.

    Would Square be as recognized outside of Japan if the video game market hadn't demanded English localizations of Japanese games? No. Does that matter? No.

    The original game Final Fantasy itself sold half a million copies in Japan, starting in 1987, 3 years before the North American localization. Square produced a number of games over the next 16 years, most of them never seeing a translation outside of Japan.

    Enix, a company known for the Dragon Quest game series (and an actual publishing arm), purchased Square some 20 years ago.

    Square Enix exists today because of a few factors, including Sony's stake in Square during the years it was recovering from bad box office sales for Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. The merger occurred after that point, when both companies were doing well.

    Square Enix would still exist today without a non-Japanese Market. Square Enix produces more than FFXIV. It produces more than video games.


    SE's amusement market (basically, arcades in Japan) has been steadily rising in growth over the past few years post-COVID.

    Their publication arm has seen solid sales year-over-year as well.

    Publishing includes the shōnen manga magazine 月刊Gファンタジー [Monthly GFantasy], where 黒執事 [Black Butler] has been appearing for the last 17 years. I urge interested readers to investigate further, because Square Enix is responsible for publishing quite a large number of manga that later became favorite anime series. Does 鋼の錬金術師 [Fullmetal Alchemist] ring a bell?
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    There is no relationship on this forum between the player base and the developers, other than both players and developers of the game exist.

    The forums are a place for official announcements (you know, in that section marked INFORMATION in the English forums), technical support (in that section marked TECHNICAL SUPPORT in the English forums), bug reports (in that section marked BUG REPORTS in the English forums), letters from the producer (in that section ... yada yada).

    It is also a place for players to discuss the game with other players. The "sticky post" for this part of the forum (and most of the other non-SE sections) reads "The purpose of this forum is for players to discuss various topics on FINAL FANTASY XIV with other players." Likewise, the Lore section sticky reads "The purpose of this forum is for players to discuss various topics on the lore of Eorzea with other players."

    None of these sections is billed as a place for players to communicate directly with the developers. Nor is there a promise, implied or otherwise, that developers or other SE personnel will read the posts for anything except determining if things are civil and in-bounds. They appear to look at reports about particular thread posts and act accordingly, hence threads or posts or posters disappearing.

    Now that this is out of the way, have a pleasant day.

    Being passive aggressive with that last bit doesn't help with your post, and your other post comes off as slightly racist assuming all North Americans think the same way.

    If that was not your intention then might want to rethink how you make your posts.
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 05-08-2023 at 01:19 PM.

  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    snip.
    What, specifically, do you find "slightly racist" about recognizing that "the assertion a company cannot be successful unless it is global in reach" is typical of the economic thought of North Americans? Indeed, what race do you consider North Americans to be? (Hint: There is no North American race.) A number of people bandy that word around without giving thought to what it means. Please do not be one of those people.
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    Omg yes these forums are filled with trolls....
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