Play other games :)

[RyuDragnier]

I've never understood the whole "FF14 respects your time" statement at all for exactly the reasons you stated. It makes no sense to me. Freaking WoW, in my view, respects your time more, albeit marginally.

The statement is there because you do not fall behind horribly if you take a break and come back. You're not far behind everyone else and locked out of doing harder content, there's no horrible grind requiring your constant time and effort to stay on par with everybody else.

[R041]

The statement is there because you do not fall behind horribly if you take a break and come back. You're not far behind everyone else and locked out of doing harder content, there's no horrible grind requiring your constant time and effort to stay on par with everybody else.

Totally, yeah. How am I gonna fall behind Praetorium and CT? Like do they even think!? LOL

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The statement is there because you do not fall behind horribly if you take a break and come back. You're not far behind everyone else and locked out of doing harder content, there's no horrible grind requiring your constant time and effort to stay on par with everybody else.

Also because I can log in, raid, cap tomes for the week, and do any other activities I feel the need to, log out, and play any manner of other games that I'm interested in that have come out recently, and still be competitive. I don't HAVE to spend all day every day in XIV grinding for rep or RNG drops just to have a chance to raid.



I love XIV, but I also have a huge interest in other games. If I was stuck in XIV instead of having the ability to play those other games when they came out and not fall behind, I probably would have dropped this game a long time ago.

Totally, yeah. How am I gonna fall behind Praetorium and CT? Like do they even think!? LOL

You keep bringing up Praetorium like you have to do it for some reason. You can just... not do MSQ roulette if you hate it so much. Also, do you even raid or do EX's? Public info says no.

[Zebraoracle]

The statement is there because you do not fall behind horribly if you take a break and come back. You're not far behind everyone else and locked out of doing harder content, there's no horrible grind requiring your constant time and effort to stay on par with everybody else.

Sure, but... I'm going to use the WoW boogieman here for an example, this wasn't really the case in WoW either. Who knows maybe WoW has changed, I got to max level in Dragonflight and kinda just stopped, but back in WotLK, when I first started, I hit level cap at... I think when the Crusader raid was relevant? Maybe the very end of Ulduar, I don't remember, but regardless, I was easily able to gear up and join relevant content despite being fresh. And because WoW isn't anti-alt like 14 is, I was able to get several alts ICC ready when it came out. So like, sure, maybe the point is relevant, but... I don't really view it as such an amazing point when other games have other ways of respecting your time too. And then like, all the issues ForteNightshade said, it just doesn't seem like the amazing point that some people make it out to be, you know?

Now if we want to talk about a game that definitely doesn't respect your time, I know it was mentioned earlier in the thread but I do not think GW2 remotely respects your time. The grinds to become raid-ready, the grind to get legendary armor and legendary weapons, the grind to get high agony resistance for high end fractals, it's all freaking insane, probably the worst grinds I've ever seen in an MMO lol. On top of that, you lose access to non-base expansion story stuff (so living world story that releases between expansions) if you don't actively do it when it releases, otherwise you have to pay for it.

Totally, yeah. How am I gonna fall behind Praetorium and CT? Like do they even think!? LOL

Bro this isn't the "gotcha" you think it is, unless you're just making a joke I can never tell with people on this forum.

[RyuDragnier]

Bro this isn't the "gotcha" you think it is, unless you're just making a joke I can never tell with people on this forum.

I can't tell if he's joking or dripping sarcasm a lot, or if he's just a troll.

[R041]

I can't tell if he's joking or dripping sarcasm a lot, or if he's just a troll.

All of the above is okay with me. This is my entertainment now.


For the record, I still do love XIV - But "Play other games" or "PUG raid" just exhaust me at this point. I don't actually play anymore, I'm basically just subbed to meme and hold my house.

[Nizzi]

For the record, I still do love XIV - But "Play other games" or "PUG raid" just exhaust me at this point. I don't actually play anymore,[/IMG]

Honest question: if you still love XIV and want to play, why does a suggestion like "try EXs in PF" exhaust you? The Extremes this expansion have been a good gateway into 'high end' content. From your posts, you seem to get enjoyment from the battle content in the game, so if you do want to play the game more and you feel like the game isn't letting you play it, why not take the plunge into the battle content the game is providing currently?

[R041]

Honest question: if you still love XIV and want to play, why does a suggestion like "try EXs in PF" exhaust you? The Extremes this expansion have been a good gateway into 'high end' content. From your posts, you seem to get enjoyment from the battle content in the game, so if you do want to play the game more and you feel like the game isn't letting you play it, why not take the plunge into the battle content the game is providing currently?

Because they've always been a bit gatekeepy, and I really don't want to deal with that shit right now. I could historically just hop into Eureka, or Bozja and get shit done. I just want more coop challenges that don't rely on the full group's coordination and constant repeated failures. But that's mostly a me problem I think, because I DO love day 1 Normals.

Variant was kinda perfect for me in that way, but it fell flat. The challenge was there, and it scaled for 1-4 which was great. But it has no reason to repeat it, and it's all scripted.

It's like both Variant and Island Sanctuary were a direct calling to my kinda playstyle, but I could instantly tell they were husks of what could've been.

[Shinkuno]

The statement is there because you do not fall behind horribly if you take a break and come back. You're not far behind everyone else and locked out of doing harder content, there's no horrible grind requiring your constant time and effort to stay on par with everybody else.

Name a currently relevant mmo where you FaLl BehInD if you take a extended break. Even Lost Ark has catchup when you take a long break and its only really a grind if you try to stay current. FF14 players have delusioned themselves into thinking that other games somehow require your undivided attention and thats why our complete lack of content is actually a good thing. Its pathetic.

[Theodric]

Name a currently relevant mmo where you FaLl BehInD if you take a extended break. Even Lost Ark has catchup when you take a long break and its only really a grind if you try to stay current. FF14 players have delusioned themselves into thinking that other games somehow require your undivided attention and thats why our complete lack of content is actually a good thing. Its pathetic.

I like WoW's catch up system. I took a break for years, came back and there's open world zones I can just get gear from which can then be used in...other content and not sync me down to the point where any stat increases are irrelevant.

Meanwhile in TESO, everything scales to my character so I can go wherever I so wish at whatever point I desire. Plus I can take a break and not risk losing my houses.