Do people not care enough or does the game do a bad job at teaching?

[Celine_Aurora]

"Do people not care enough or does the game do a bad job at teaching?"

Neither, job design is terrible....& that translates to the people who are playing them.

If you are not pressing your actions that's not a job design issue, that's a you issue

[Absurdity]

If you are not pressing your actions that's not a job design issue, that's a you issue

It is partially a job issue. Not to the extend that you have an active uptime of like 20%, as some players do, but you end up dying to stupid things and might end up with regular mistakes, because if the jobs are utterly unengaging to play you just zone out and mindlessly press buttons by muscle memory alone.

[Celine_Aurora]

It is partially a job issue. Not to the extend that you have an active uptime of like 20%, as some players do, but you end up dying to stupid things and might end up with regular mistakes, because if the jobs are utterly unengaging to play you just zone out and mindlessly press buttons by muscle memory alone.

Sorry, but that sounds like an excuse, if the job is unengaging enough that you can't keep yourself from making dumb mistakes or falling asleep at the wheel for 10 whole minutes, and yet keep queueing for duties, that's even more of a you issue. And the kind of mentality that leads to no songs BRD because it's just a game bro, or I don't care bro.

[Absurdity]

Sorry, but that sounds like an excuse, if the job is unengaging enough that you can't keep yourself from making dumb mistakes or falling asleep at the wheel for 10 whole minutes, and yet keep queueing for duties, that's even more of a you issue. And the kind of mentality that leads to no songs BRD because it's just a game bro, or I don't care bro.

Not really, had it happen even in savage on jobs that have just been reduced to mindless button mashing by design. When you do 1-2-4-1-2-3-Fell Cleave for the 50000th time because that's now the peak of warrior gameplay you just start finding pretty much anything more interesting...and then you miss which number you are on during P4S Finale.
And while I haven't played EW summoner in any savage fight I can absolutely imagine the same happening on that job, now that a majority of your gameplay consists of pressing the same 3 buttons.

Obviously this is not a thing that happens during prog, but we're at the point where certain jobs get their engagement only from the content you're doing with them and that usually doesn't last all that long.