The Last Resort for Housing and Hoarders

[Toutatis]

I will repeat it once again, this is a matter of opinion, I value houses because its the main thing I do in the game, it's really that simple, and I dont expect you to share that with me as I assume (feel free to prove me wrong) that you dont only do housing in the game

Even if all I did in the game was housing, it is still just a game and it doesn't justify your opinion that not everyone should be able to get a house. I don't give that much of importance to a game. To consider an in game house a status symbol of some sort sounds quite unhealthy.

[Stormpeaks]

Even if all I did in the game was housing, it is still just a game and it doesn't justify your opinion that not everyone should be able to get a house. I don't give that much of importance to a game. To consider an in game house a status symbol of some sort sounds quite unhealthy.

Once again, I will repeat, this is my opinion, and I have my right to have it, if I value something, I value something, your opinion is that it's wrong, and that's okay.

Some people value ultimate weapons
Some people value ocean fishing
Some people value relic weapons
I could go on, and who am I to judge these people ?

[Jojoya]

Once again, I will repeat, this is my opinion, and I have my right to have it, if I value something, I value something, your opinion is that it's wrong, and that's okay.

Some people value ultimate weapons
Some people value ocean fishing
Some people value relic weapons
I could go on, and who am I to judge these people ?

I imagine most of us understand that you value it. What's left unanswered is why you value it.

Do you value it for the things you do with it, or do you value it for the prestige you think it gives you?

If it's the first, allowing others to have the same plot shouldn't change how you value it at all.

If it's the second, that's already a fragile thing. Not everyone sees house ownership as a prestige symbol. Some see it as a symbol of a game system designed poorly. Others see it simply as a game play choice.

Would your interest in the housing system truly disappear if everyone had the option to get a Shiro 60 (not that everyone would)?

[Khryseis_Astra]

Once again, this is my personal opinion on it, I have my right to have it just as much as other people have the right to theirs, because getting my S60 was technically done via RNG, doesnt mean I didnt spend 2 years, including some placard time as well trying to get one, and had never managed to before, and when I got it, I was the happiest I could've been in a long time, that was my long term goal for the game and its housing, and I got to it by putting in work for it over 2 years, every single time one was up under placard system, which was pretty intense, and then less work via the lottery, but still put in the time anyways to try and maximize my chances.

Yes, if random Johnny logs in the game and plops a shiro 60 out of the sky, while I had to work for it for 2 years, the plot wont have the same value, because literally everyone has one, I'm not sure why this even has to be said, this is like saying that apartments are valuable and yet every single person in the game has one, and that it will feel good or you will feel pride to have one, hint : you wont.

And what about the people who put in all that same amount of effort right alongside of you, but have nothing to show for it? Are they somehow less worthy of that Shiro 60 because luck didn’t smile upon them that day? At this point random Johnny could’ve been trying for it for 4 years, maybe he even deserves it more! lol

But yeah I think I get it now, you just want to feel special. *shrugs* I’d rather see everyone be able to participate in housing as a bare minimum, and ideally be able to have their dream house. But again it’s a game feature that every paying customer should have access to, and not some RNG-based prestige system. So yeah I’m going prioritize the people that are left out of the process. It’s not pie: other people getting nice things too isn’t taking anything away from you.

[Stormpeaks]

I imagine most of us understand that you value it. What's left unanswered is why you value it.

Do you value it for the things you do with it, or do you value it for the prestige you think it gives you?

If it's the first, allowing others to have the same plot shouldn't change how you value it at all. - A

If it's the second, that's already a fragile thing. Not everyone sees house ownership as a prestige symbol. Some see it as a symbol of a game system designed poorly. Others see it simply as a game play choice.

Would your interest in the housing system truly disappear if everyone had the option to get a Shiro 60 (not that everyone would)?

- Both of those really, I like the prestige it gives, I like to impress someone when they teleport to my house and they tell me that I have an amazing location, same for LB41, it's always fun to impress people with the area, especially new players, they love it and it also gives them a goal as they will also start to want it. I also value it for what it is and what I do with it of course.

- As I said above, it's both.

- I absolutely agree with that, which is why I said above that I can perfectly understand that not everyone has my opinion, however I think questioning the fact I value housing more than others and calling it "unhealthy" is uncalled for, you could compare this to ultimate weapons as well, imagine if everyone had ultimate weapons all of a sudden, I dont think many people would be happy, because then poof there goes their prestige weapons.

- I wouldnt say it would completely disappear, however it would be lessened yeah.

And what about the people who put in all that same amount of effort right alongside of you, but have nothing to show for it? Are they somehow less worthy of that Shiro 60 because luck didn’t smile upon them that day? At this point random Johnny could’ve been trying for it for 4 years, maybe he even deserves it more! lol

But yeah I think I get it now, you just want to feel special. *shrugs* I’d rather see everyone be able to participate in housing as a bare minimum, and ideally be able to have their dream house. But again it’s a game feature that every paying customer should have access to, and not some RNG-based prestige system. So yeah I’m going prioritize the people that are left out of the process. It’s not pie: other people getting nice things too isn’t taking anything away from you.

I mean it still is all about the luck in the end, I personally moved from Ragnarok to Lousoix, to Spriggan and then ended up moving to Phantom, and ending up on Sagittarius for housing, I maximized my chances as much as I could to get what I want, but it is still all about RNG, there's not much you can do, all you can do is maximize your chances.

An easy solution is to put instanced housing on the island, and remove auto demolition permanently, that way everyone keeps their house without the fear of unsubbing, and instanced housing is on the island.

[ForteNightshade]

Tell you what, OP? We'll consider your idea when the GMs start banning the market board bots that actually impact the economy. Don't worry, it's only been nearly a decade of them doing next to nothing. I'm sure they'll get rid on it soon.

[Jojoya]

An easy solution is to put instanced housing on the island, and remove auto demolition permanently, that way everyone keeps their house without the fear of unsubbing, and instanced housing is on the island.

I don't see them removing auto-demolition completely. I could see them potentially extending it to 6 months from the current 45 days, though.

[ZiraZ]

They just need to remove submarines from housing to fix a lot of issues, including RMT

[WinglessSeraphim]

They just need to remove submarines from housing to fix a lot of issues, including RMT

RMT existed before submarines.

[ZiraZ]

RMT existed before submarines.

yeah I know but subs accelerated it, they should be accessible to everyone from the island sanctuary after removing salvage from the game
should also not allow FC to transfer leadership if the FC has a house, they should be bound to the FC leader when it's acquired