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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    How to restore confidence?

    It is simple, start playing another MMO and come crawling back... it can't be said any more simple.
    Tell us you dont play other MMO's without telling us you dont play other MMO's, there is no "crawling back" after people go over to other MMO's, people stay there, in the absolute best case scenario they play both, that's what happened with the massive wow exodus, they all tried FFXIV and made the population explode, then they crawled back to WoW, if you think people crawl back to FFXIV after trying other MMO's, you are delusional, not everyone wants free handout relics and an absolute bare expansion with barely any content to do at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Tell us you dont play other MMO's without telling us you dont play other MMO's, there is no "crawling back" after people go over to other MMO's, people stay there, in the absolute best case scenario they play both, that's what happened with the massive wow exodus, they all tried FFXIV and made the population explode, then they crawled back to WoW, if you think people crawl back to FFXIV after trying other MMO's, you are delusional, not everyone wants free handout relics and an absolute bare expansion with barely any content to do at all
    Pretty much this.

    This expansion I've definitely played more FFXI than I have FFXIV because unlike here FFXI actually gives me stuff to do and work towards. The classic jobs from the franchise I like were actually allowed to have distinct gameplay and full fledged job fantasies over there instead of the joke that this game's Summoner and Blue Mage are. The world of FFXI has also generally held more appeal for me than FFXIV's, no annoying scions like Alphinaud constantly pestering me and several unique characters I end up liking per expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Tell us you dont play other MMO's without telling us you dont play other MMO's, there is no "crawling back" after people go over to other MMO's, people stay there, in the absolute best case scenario they play both, that's what happened with the massive wow exodus, they all tried FFXIV and made the population explode, then they crawled back to WoW, if you think people crawl back to FFXIV after trying other MMO's, you are delusional, not everyone wants free handout relics and an absolute bare expansion with barely any content to do at all
    I play this, ESO, and Lost Ark. I dropped EQ, EQ2, Aion, GW2, Black Desert Online, and Tera (before it died entirely) as my interests changed and I needed to make decisions about how I spend my time.

    I rotate as I don't think any MMO is going to keep my attention 100% of the time. It's simply impossible for any game outside mobas I guess to keep people's attention 24/7 for a decade.

    I think wandering between MMOs, other games that aren't even MMOs, and other life experiences is common. I don't think many people view these as all or nothing decisions and I find the tone of this a bit bizarre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Tell us you dont play other MMO's without telling us you dont play other MMO's, there is no "crawling back" after people go over to other MMO's, people stay there, in the absolute best case scenario they play both, that's what happened with the massive wow exodus, they all tried FFXIV and made the population explode, then they crawled back to WoW, if you think people crawl back to FFXIV after trying other MMO's, you are delusional, not everyone wants free handout relics and an absolute bare expansion with barely any content to do at all
    It's actually pretty normal for people to play multiple MMOs these days. MMOs are no longer the massive time sinks they used to be where if you didn't dedicate every second of your free time to it you'd fall behind with no chance of catching up. I routinely go and jump into ESO for a bit, or WoW and normally do so while still playing FF14. I've even taken breaks, where I've gone to another game for almost two years and came back to FF14. Most of the people I play with play multiple MMOs because, as I said, gone are the days of needing to sink every moment of your life into it and now you can play multiples without sacrificing any kind of progress in them for the most part. At least not progress that can't be made up easily enough.

    As for the topic. I've been playing since ARR and I honestly have no issues with how the game is going. There are some things I would change yes, like making V&C Dungeons more worthwhile to keep them active and adding diminishing returns to CC abilities in PvP (Please please please give us diminishing returns. Being kept perma stunned for minutes while you are run over by a wave of players is not fun). But I am enjoying the story and the direction it is going in, and I am glad we have no exploratory zone. That stuff can stay gone as far as I am concerned, though I would welcome back some of the ARR things for Relics like having specific fights for it, or having to do certain things along with grinding out currency. Just no more Eureka or Bozja. Please. No more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Tell us you dont play other MMO's without telling us you dont play other MMO's, there is no "crawling back" after people go over to other MMO's, people stay there, in the absolute best case scenario they play both, that's what happened with the massive wow exodus, they all tried FFXIV and made the population explode, then they crawled back to WoW, if you think people crawl back to FFXIV after trying other MMO's, you are delusional, not everyone wants free handout relics and an absolute bare expansion with barely any content to do at all
    Played other MMO's they all got flaws... the op whines too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    the op whines too much.
    Ironically, the people whining about the whiners whine more than the whiners.

    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Now, here we are in an expansion where I have to tolerate people who deliberately mislead others and misrepresent me when they, doubtless, would have little to no issue if the changes I long for came to pass with official sanction.
    Some of the people here definitely fit into this category. If Yoshi P put his stamp of approval on your 6.x patch rewrite (for example), it would be praised as a masterclass in writing for no other reason than Yoshi endorsing it. Some may scoff at that idea, but we all know they would.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 05-04-2023 at 07:31 AM.

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