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  1. #51
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    The gif is disturbing
    It looks like an infinite field of TitanMen. Apparently they are Legion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It looks like an infinite field of TitanMen. Apparently they are Legion.
    I cannot with any certainty claim that to be an inaccurate statement. Can anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It looks like an infinite field of TitanMen. Apparently they are Legion.
    Does this unit have a soul?
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Does this unit have a soul?
    That depends, which route did you pick? That's a complicated question, and this has been a long saga.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TowaIsBestGirl View Post
    That depends, which route did you pick? That's a complicated question, and this has been a long saga.
    I am very much a Grey Jedi...of Mass Effect. I was pretty much a good chuck of both with a slight tip over in the favor of Paragon.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's definitely a reference to Vagrant Story. Really wish they'd bring back Matsuno for a raid series dealing with Lea Monde.
    Please no.

    I never played NieR so the NieR raids, while spectacles, were meaningless to me. They didn't tie the white powder into the Sin Eaters, they didn't do any connection between the worlds, nothing. It was a side story that apparently said something to NieR players, but had no ties in the FFXIV world and thus were meaningless to us here other than "Oh, we saved the world again...I think? Wasn't really clear on who we were fighting, why, if they were a threat, or what kind of threat they were, or even they even were at all. And what happened to the Dwarf at the end? Oh, right, he just left and we never hear from him again. Oh, what's that? That's just how Yoko Taro writes his stories? Well, guess I'm never playing any game he writes, then, because that sucks."

    I'd much rather something like Ivalice which actually exists in FFXIV and is RELEVANT to the events in FFXIV and even later events (like the Bozja Resistance). Crystal Tower tied into FFXIV's history/lore with the Allegans and (even if you want to say it was a retcon later) into ShB, Shadows of Mhach again tied into the game's lore (5th Era) closed out the Diablos story from the Amdapor dungeons and arguably also foreshadowed the future (6.1-6.4), and Ivalice I already mentioned, but it build into more lore related to the world/map and Garlemald, and of course into the Bozjan Resistance and arguably the fall of Garlemald.

    What did the NeiR raids play into?

    LITERALLY nothing.

    If they're going to do crossovers, they need to be relevant to FFXIV's world and players, not only people that played that other game.
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    Renathras

    I did enjoy NieR, and looked at the actual game NieR Automata to sdee what all the fuss was about, had been released recently to see more...and this is where your hip pocket will scream.

    $100 AUD



    Yeah..Ill wait till the price drops...........
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    Speaking of crossovers with old SE games, you know what we need? A Parasite Eve crossover. They already dipped their toes into Resident Evil style bosses with Devil May Cry music.

    (Why yes, I am indeed looking at you Lahabrea. However did you manage to puzzle that one out?)
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    We need a Super Mario bross crossover. Kan-E-Senna and some moogles gets kidnapped for Golbez into the Void, and we need to get into some raids, and at the end of the raids a single moogle appears saying "Sorry WoL but our princess is in another castle, kupo!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    LITERALLY nothing.

    If they're going to do crossovers, they need to be relevant to FFXIV's world and players, not only people that played that other game.
    Part of the issue is mostly how Yoko Taro does things. His stuff can be philosophical, depressing, and comedic at the same time. It doesn't mesh well with a game like this, especially since androids don't really work here. It COULD have worked if the Nier raids were this expansion and the locations were accessed in Ultima Thule, but not really how it was implemented.

    Keep in mind also that Lea Monde COULD fit simply because the game itself is about a single lone operative in the middle ages trying to stop a cult and save the son of the kidnapped duke. He just ends up walking into a conspiracy at a location where the supernatural lies. Ghosts, demons, dark magic, forbidden spells and in the deepest depths a grimoire that holds magic so powerful it could easily destroy nations. This location is also where, in FF14, the IVth Legion had their base set up.

    Imagine that a survivor from that Legion decided to get their hands on that grimoire to fulfill their own ambitions. Imagine if this was happening at the same time as a diplomatic summit with Bozja/Nagxia/Dalmasca that we were invited to as a bodyguard for the Eorzean Alliance's representatives.
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