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  1. #571
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe_Saunders View Post
    honestly I think the game is fine, but the jobs are not they are 2 brain dead game play wise you can say this or that but the fact is with all of these jobs after a certain level you can be watching netflix or playing another game and preform your job perfectly... There no real reaso n to pay attention to the game as you play it combat wise your essentially playing at autopilot because every single fight and class is basicly the same. The game is to dumb down to keep peoples attention, if they maade the jobs require a minuime of 5 braincells it would atleast be interactive but its not its so brain dead I could be zombie playing the game because it just muscle memory after you get your abilitys. I mean damn it even tells you what ability is next in line with a blinking square making it so you dont have to think at all..
    That's some pretty heavy hyperbole here. There's a number of jobs where you can never just keep your eyes off the screen. NIN, GNB, and BLM are a few examples of this. None of those 3 play the same either, and it's very easy to spot differences in playstyle between jobs. DNC, MCH, and BRD do not play the same. SMN, RDM, and BLM do not play the same. DRG, RPR, NIN, and MNK do not play the same. etc etc. The only 2 jobs I could say with certainty DO play the same (or at least really close to it) are WAR and DRK.
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  2. #572
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    Victoria Neversong
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    That's some pretty heavy hyperbole here. There's a number of jobs where you can never just keep your eyes off the screen. NIN, GNB, and BLM are a few examples of this. None of those 3 play the same either, and it's very easy to spot differences in playstyle between jobs. DNC, MCH, and BRD do not play the same. SMN, RDM, and BLM do not play the same. DRG, RPR, NIN, and MNK do not play the same. etc etc. The only 2 jobs I could say with certainty DO play the same (or at least really close to it) are WAR and DRK.
    thats incorrect ninja/blm require no thinkiong you just half ass look pop your defense and your fine and can do b100% perfect its muscle memory 1 444444444444444 2 5 then 1 then 444444444 throw in 3 thats all the jobs are at the end of the day you look at the screen for a total of 2mins in an entire place just to see if ur cds are up or not. Honestly its stupid braindead game play honestly they really do play the same your not even thinking when your talking are you they are all played 1-3 u get a cd you pop a cd then rinse and repeat they legit are the same thing at the basic binary level.. you have to be completely retarded to not see how everything is the same which means you dont have to look at the screen...


    So either im super genius (which im not)

    or the avarage player as the brain of a dog
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  3. #573
    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Marel Nobelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    There's a number of jobs where you can never just keep your eyes off the screen.
    Skill issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe_Saunders View Post
    or the avarage player as the brain of a dog
    This is the case. This game is not hard. The average FFXIV player is just too stupid or too unwilling (mostly the latter, but also potentially both) to play at a decent level.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 05-01-2023 at 06:45 AM.

  4. #574
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I actually wouldn't be surprised if they start making ability combos and everything more like PvP.
    I hope they do. There's functionally zero difference between 123 and 111. People can claim "muh engagement" all they want but it's still 3 rotational button presses. They're always hit in the same order.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe_Saunders View Post
    thats incorrect ninja/blm require no thinkiong you just half ass look pop your defense and your fine and can do b100% perfect its muscle memory 1 444444444444444 2 5 then 1 then 444444444 throw in 3 thats all the jobs are at the end of the day you look at the screen for a total of 2mins in an entire place just to see if ur cds are up or not. Honestly its stupid braindead game play honestly they really do play the same your not even thinking when your talking are you they are all played 1-3 u get a cd you pop a cd then rinse and repeat they legit are the same thing at the basic binary level.. you have to be completely retarded to not see how everything is the same which means you dont have to look at the screen...


    So either im super genius (which im not)

    or the avarage player as the brain of a dog
    BLM is by far the hardest job in the game right now. Literally what are you talking about? Look up transpose lines.
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  6. #576
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    That's some pretty heavy hyperbole here. There's a number of jobs where you can never just keep your eyes off the screen. NIN, GNB, and BLM are a few examples of this. None of those 3 play the same either, and it's very easy to spot differences in playstyle between jobs. DNC, MCH, and BRD do not play the same. SMN, RDM, and BLM do not play the same. DRG, RPR, NIN, and MNK do not play the same. etc etc. The only 2 jobs I could say with certainty DO play the same (or at least really close to it) are WAR and DRK.
    All of this is solved by learning the job to a minimal level, then you don’t even need to look at the screen anymore, not sure why you are pretending as if there is some deep complexity to it, it’s literally the same minuscule rotation over and over again of maybe 3 to 4 buttons
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  7. #577
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    That's some pretty heavy hyperbole here. There's a number of jobs where you can never just keep your eyes off the screen. NIN, GNB, and BLM are a few examples of this. None of those 3 play the same either, and it's very easy to spot differences in playstyle between jobs. DNC, MCH, and BRD do not play the same. SMN, RDM, and BLM do not play the same. DRG, RPR, NIN, and MNK do not play the same. etc etc. The only 2 jobs I could say with certainty DO play the same (or at least really close to it) are WAR and DRK.
    I'll give you BLM but NIN and GNB are actual Netflix jobs. The only thing to worry about on GNB is to never use Burst Strike outside of burst unless you're about to overcap. And NIN is literally the same rotation and burst window over and over again.

    Only MNK and BLM preserves any semblance of difficulty in EW.
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  8. #578
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    Victoria Neversong
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    BLM is by far the hardest job in the game right now. Literally what are you talking about? Look up transpose lines.
    hardest for who a 5 year old boy?

    its so basic level its hardly a challange

    I guess our definations of hard is very diffrent since ive played many hard games before.. but its a joke to call blm "hard" lol

    im starting to think ff xiv playerss are brainless who refuse to grow and learn and allow themself to be challanged to get better
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    Last edited by Chloe_Saunders; 05-01-2023 at 07:02 AM.

  9. #579
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe_Saunders View Post
    hardest for who a 5 year old boy?

    its so basic level its hardly a challange

    I guess our definations of hard is very diffrent since ive played many hard games before.. but its a joke to call blm "hard" lol
    https://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/jobs...uide/#advanced
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  10. #580
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    Long guide describing different builds or playstyles =/ hard buddy
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