This game is on a terrible state right now.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I appreciate all feedback and counter-feedback. But if you're gonna retort and say "But I have so much to do" maybe provide context into what you mean, so we can have an actual discussion instead of the only contribution you're providing is a counter with no point. It's just "Nuh uh!"

As we've ALL discussed - XIV has a huge problem with no middle-ground content unless it's egregious achievement hunting. I feel like this is where WoW is shining right now, it provides pretty good 'midcore' content that allows us to just hop in anytime and expect a challenge with any group of people. Kinda like how Eureka and Bozja worked, but that doesn't really exist in long form, and it also doesn't append to normal gameplay. Our 'midcore' is always a completely separate game mode, it may as well be a minigame most of the time.

So when people say they have so much to do, they're usually talking about Raid, or Achievements. If you look at the Census, only a small minority of players even do Savage. It's especially low for NA.

I don't know about you, but I don't want to get locked down to a static of salty players. I've had enough experience in both XIV and years of MMOs to just not enjoy that type of content. So I expect more difficult content with hop-in/hop-out opportunities.

LOL, Im sure if I made a Laundry list for said context, Id still get the same results. You, or someone else coming at me and getting mad at me for saying anything short of just Agreeing with them.
Raids and Achievements, are just 2 things to do in the game. Id list it off, but as I said, even if I did, Id get the same reaction, so I dont feel like it matters or is worth the effort. Since it being worth it will always be subjective anyway, such as having stuff to do in the 1st place.

And no, I completely agree. I dont want to be in that situation ever again.
But thats not an issue with the content. Thats people in the Playerbase.

Why don't you expand on the "plenty to do" content that came out in EW that you're doing? Remember - having things to do from older expansions doesn't count as content within the context of the current expansion. It doesn't matter if you're working on a ShB relic right now or farming mounts from Stormblood, that isn't CURRENT content. What do you have to do from Endwalker?

Ah, with this restriction. I have things to do.
Savages/EXs I haven't cleared, Ultimites Im still trying to gain the mental fortitude to attempt, Master crafting Recipes, the Stadium turn-in quests (They have a name I forget what it is), Raising all of my Crafters, side quests that could expand the lore of the game, Sightseeing log, Criterion Dungeon runs, Deep Dungeon Runs, getting all of the relics (which will just take time) Running CC and Frontlines to level my Milestones/Battlepass. Finally start my Island Sanctuary, do the Moogletrove more seriously instead of passively.....I think thats what I got off the top of my head for "Current EW"
But with FFXIV as a whole, I have Plenty to do!....but I think you established you arnt interested in that.

[R041]

LOL, Im sure if I made a Laundry list for said context, Id still get the same results. You, or someone else coming at me and getting mad at me for saying anything short of just Agreeing with them.
Raids and Achievements, are just 2 things to do in the game. Id list it off, but as I said, even if I did, Id get the same reaction, so I dont feel like it matters or is worth the effort. Since it being worth it will always be subjective anyway, such as having stuff to do in the 1st place.

And no, I completely agree. I dont want to be in that situation ever again.
But thats not an issue with the content. Thats people in the Playerbase.

All I'm saying is that the only thing you were providing to the discussion was effectively just gaslighting people saying you have so much content to do (While playing Apex), and then didn't elaborate. So it just comes off as generally combative with no constructive discussion. So I'm not sure what you're trying to gain, unless you just completely miscalculated how you'd come off.

If elaboration isn't worth the effort, then what's the point of even responding? Of course we're gonna reply like this. lol

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

All I'm saying is that the only thing you were providing to the discussion was effectively just gaslighting people saying you have so much content to do (While playing Apex), and then didn't elaborate. So it just comes off as generally combative with no constructive discussion. So I'm not sure what you're trying to gain, unless you just completely miscalculated how you'd come off.

If elaboration isn't worth the effort, then what's the point of even responding? Of course we're gonna reply like this. lol

You know what that word means right?....Im not manipulating or causing any one to doubt themselves or their opinions. I keep promoting people to share their grievances.
Not trying to gain anything, I already mentioned that, there isnt some hidden agenda here. The only thing I miscalculate is thinking this time people wont try to twist what Im saying, and pray I dont get another stupid and old "Shill / White knight / Something about YoshiP Senpai" Comment for...sometimes no reason other then me not 100% agreeing.

LOL That would require them actually adding things to the achievement vendor. So probably never.

Sad but true. -Pouty Face-

[Nizzi]

Ah, with this restriction. I have things to do.
Savages/EXs I haven't cleared, Ultimites Im still trying to gain the mental fortitude to attempt, Master crafting Recipes, the Stadium turn-in quests (They have a name I forget what it is), Raising all of my Crafters, side quests that could expand the lore of the game, Sightseeing log, Criterion Dungeon runs, Deep Dungeon Runs, getting all of the relics (which will just take time) Running CC and Frontlines to level my Milestones/Battlepass. Finally start my Island Sanctuary, do the Moogletrove more seriously instead of passively.....I think thats what I got off the top of my head for "Current EW"

You totally have plenty to do and yet you're not doing any of it, got it. I asked you what you're DOING that's Endwalker specific and you list me a bunch of stuff you're not doing. You're not doing Extreme, Savage, Criterion or Ultimate and you haven't even done Island Sanctuary, which came out 251 days ago. Two hundred and fifty one days and you haven't done it at all, some content huh? It sure must be nice to never do new content and then tell others who have done it that there's loads to do. You barely play the game and then come here to tell people who do play the game that they're wrong and there's tons to do!

But with FFXIV as a whole, I have Plenty to do!....but I think you established you arnt interested in that.

No, unlike you, I've actually done the content this game provides, which is why I can sympathize with people who feel that there isn't anything to do. Who are you to tell me I'm not interested in it? By the way, you need to clear P4S and P8S to be able to unlock DSR/TOP, so there's should be no reason to "gain mental fortitude to attempt" it when you can't even attempt it yet.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

You totally have plenty to do and yet you're not doing any of it, got it. I asked you what you're DOING that's Endwalker specific and you list me a bunch of stuff you're not doing. You're not doing Extreme, Savage, Criterion or Ultimate and you haven't even done Island Sanctuary, which came out 251 days ago. Two hundred and fifty one days and you haven't done it at all, some content huh? It sure must be nice to never do new content and then tell others who have done it that there's loads to do. You barely play the game and then come here to tell people who do play the game that they're wrong and there's tons to do!


No, unlike you, I've actually done the content this game provides, which is why I can sympathize with people who feel that there isn't anything to do. Who are you to tell me I'm not interested in it? By the way, you need to clear P4S and P8S to be able to unlock DSR/TOP, so there's should be no reason to "gain mental fortitude to attempt" it when you can't even attempt it yet.

I have lots to do, partally because there is Stuff I havent done "Yet" Hence, I have stuff to do. Guess you missed that point.
But hey, maybe I misread your post about what I am doing. Roulettes, gearing some of my jobs, rerunning a few raids to get glamours I want (RNG bby!), Moogletrove Passively, Shared Fates Passively, Leveling my Crafters, trying to learn Mahjong, getting all of the relics, doing gold saucer, helping my friends through content they haven't cleared and want stuff from, working on some of those turn-in quests, just finished the Rabbit Tribe, do the deep dungeon (to be clear, I just havent completed it yet. I have been playing it), just to name a few things.

Yeah, I just havent done it yet. Still proving the point "I still got stuff to do" Im not a hardcore raider, but its still content to do, when I finally do it. I figured that wouldnt be difficult to understand.
I am Me, the guy who is telling you you arnt interested....also because you Said only EW. Stuff in ShB doesnt count if I remember your words correctly.

[Nizzi]

I figured that wouldnt be difficult to understand.

This is so rich. I asked you what you're doing in Endwalker, you list me a bunch of stuff you're not doing and more than likely will never do based on how long ago most of these things were, and are trying to act like I didn't understand your "point" when the point is that you spend more time slavishly defending the game and its lack of content than you do actually playing it.

Roulettes, gearing some of my jobs, rerunning a few raids to get glamours I want (RNG bby!), Moogletrove Passively, Shared Fates Passively, Leveling my Crafters, trying to learn Mahjong, getting all of the relics, doing gold saucer, helping my friends through content they haven't cleared and want stuff from, working on some of those turn-in quests, just finished the Rabbit Tribe, do the deep dungeon (to be clear, I just havent completed it yet. I have been playing it), just to name a few things.

Roulettes aren't Endwalker content, the only Endwalker raids you can be running for RNG gear are Aglaia and Euphrosyne, Moogle Treasure Trove is not Endwalker content as there's literally 0 level 81+ (Endwalker) content that awards tomes from it, Mahjong is not from Endwalker, outside of one jump GATE there's nothing Endwalker specific to the Gold Saucer, so...

Really, what you've listed is:
>Eureka Orthos
>Loporrits
>Studium Turn-ins
>Manderville relics
That's all you're doing that is Endwalker specific.
Eureka Orthos is good content, I enjoyed it. I cleared it solo week 1, and while that's not reflective of the majority of the userbase's experience with it, it does remain as actual involved "game" content that you can do. The rest in this list absolutely is not. Beast Tribes are a 5 minute thing you do once a day, they're more like a mobile gacha game daily and once you're done with the storyline and at Bloodsworn, there's no reason to keep doing them. Unless they've added more quests to the Studium, most people completed them within the first month of Endwalker being out, as most people who do crafting want to have everything at cap as soon as possible so they can make money selling gear for Savage patch drops.

Do you see the point now?

Yeah, I just havent done it yet. Still proving the point "I still got stuff to do" Im not a hardcore raider, but its still content to do, when I finally do it.

And I'm sure it will be great content for you to do in 8.0 when you unsync it in Party Finder, but it's clear you have absolutely zero intention to actually do it when it's current content, so why list it at all? You had 8 months to do Asphodelos when it was current and people were doing it in PF, and you didn't. You've had nearly 8 months to do Abyssos and you haven't done it. 6.4 is a little less than a month away, meaning the FINAL TIER of Savage will be out, and you still haven't done either tiers. You can't do Ultimate at all because you haven't cleared P4S or P8S. I see you posting in a ton of threads here daily. Have you really been THAT busy with Eureka Orthos, beast tribes and crafting turn ins that you couldn't jump into PF at any point to do Savage? Or does it just so happen to be that like Island Sanctuary, you don't really do the content or play the game much?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Sweaty player can't understand why someone isn't sweaty, gets frustrated.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Im sorry Im a filthy Casual.....I guess.....

This is so rich. I asked you what you're doing in Endwalker, you list me a bunch of stuff you're not doing and more than likely will never do based on how long ago most of these things were, and are trying to act like I didn't understand your "point" when the point is that you spend more time slavishly defending the game and its lack of content than you do actually playing it.



Roulettes aren't Endwalker content, the only Endwalker raids you can be running for RNG gear are Aglaia and Euphrosyne, Moogle Treasure Trove is not Endwalker content as there's literally 0 level 81+ (Endwalker) content that awards tomes from it, Mahjong is not from Endwalker, outside of one jump GATE there's nothing Endwalker specific to the Gold Saucer, so...

Really, what you've listed is:
>Eureka Orthos
>Loporrits
>Studium Turn-ins
>Manderville relics
That's all you're doing that is Endwalker specific.
Eureka Orthos is good content, I enjoyed it. I cleared it solo week 1, and while that's not reflective of the majority of the userbase's experience with it, it does remain as actual involved "game" content that you can do. The rest in this list absolutely is not. Beast Tribes are a 5 minute thing you do once a day, they're more like a mobile gacha game daily and once you're done with the storyline and at Bloodsworn, there's no reason to keep doing them. Unless they've added more quests to the Studium, most people completed them within the first month of Endwalker being out, as most people who do crafting want to have everything at cap as soon as possible so they can make money selling gear for Savage patch drops.

Do you see the point now?



And I'm sure it will be great content for you to do in 8.0 when you unsync it in Party Finder, but it's clear you have absolutely zero intention to actually do it when it's current content, so why list it at all? You had 8 months to do Asphodelos when it was current and people were doing it in PF, and you didn't. You've had nearly 8 months to do Abyssos and you haven't done it. 6.4 is a little less than a month away, meaning the FINAL TIER of Savage will be out, and you still haven't done either tiers. You can't do Ultimate at all because you haven't cleared P4S or P8S. I see you posting in a ton of threads here daily. Have you really been THAT busy with Eureka Orthos, beast tribes and crafting turn ins that you couldn't jump into PF at any point to do Savage? Or does it just so happen to be that like Island Sanctuary, you don't really do the content or play the game much?

So you're just gonna assume Im never gonna do said content, just because I haven't done it yet? Ok, thats you I guess.
Doing other things isn't ok apparently either. But it also seems the entire point of "There is still alot to do, is just lost on you. That was my whole point...that you somehow just dont understand.
Ah well, I guess just coming at me and calling me a defender is just easier to do.

Roulettes feature Endwalker Dungeons, and Trials. I cant remember if there is a longer grace period for Raids, but its all there, its still part of the Spectrum.
The Current Moogletrove is in Endwalker = Endwalker Content.
Mahjong, yeah, I flubbed that one. But as part of my point: still something to do.

And now you are just gonna assume Im gonna unsync it.
Ok fam, you have fun with your little assumptions. And just totally ignore I do other things both in FFXIV: Such as helping my friends who are newer to the game. And other IRL stuff or occasionally playing other games. Because FFXIV isnt my lifeblood.

[R041]

Such as helping my friends who are newer to the game.

So typical now. "I'm so busy repeating ARR, and also helping other players do ARR" - You'll be AFK 90% of the time, as new players are just MSQ grinding visual novel.

We're insane, just repeating Lv50 dungeons over, and over, and over, and over, and over. You'll continue to do this forever because Free Trial players are playing you.

"I still haven't finished POTD, I got so much content to do!"
(Continues to repeat basic ARR dungeons over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over)

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

So typical now. "I'm so busy repeating ARR, and also helping other players do ARR" - You'll be AFK 90% of the time, as new players are just MSQ grinding visual novel.

We're insane, just repeating Lv50 dungeons over, and over, and over, and over, and over. You'll continue to do this forever because Free Trial players are playing you.

"I still haven't finished POTD, I got so much content to do!"
(Continues to repeat basic ARR dungeons over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over)

Are you...mad, that I have friends I help, and I find enjoyment out of things you dont?...
Buddy, go touch some grass.

[Nizzi]

Sweaty player can't understand why someone isn't sweaty, gets frustrated.

Another brilliant take by the genius minds of the Official Forums.

So you're just gonna assume Im never gonna do said content, just because I haven't done it yet? Ok, thats you I guess.

No, I know you're not going to do said content because you've had over a year at this point to do either tier and you haven't. If you do it, it will be to unsync it expansions later.

Roulettes feature Endwalker Dungeons, and Trials. I cant remember if there is a longer grace period for Raids, but its all there, its still part of the Spectrum.
The Current Moogletrove is in Endwalker = Endwalker Content.

LOL
Doing ARR dungeons or ShB trials is Endwalker content? They may as well stop making new content entirely and just give a Moogle event eternally if that's all it takes to have content in the current expansion! You've figured out the formula, SE needs to hire you immediately! THE SUNKEN TEMPLE OF QARN IS ENDWALKER CONTENT! :O

And now you are just gonna assume Im gonna unsync it.
Ok fam, you have fun with your little assumptions. And just totally ignore I do other things both in FFXIV: Such as helping my friends who are newer to the game. And other IRL stuff or occasionally playing other games. Because FFXIV isnt my lifeblood.

Sure, I know you are lil bro, because if you had the intention to do it synced, you would've at least attempted either tier before they were able to be unsynced or with echo. It doesn't matter if that's your plan, by the way, it's just extremely disingenuous (as most of your posts usually are) to list Extreme/Savage/Ultimate as a reply to me asking you what content you're DOING when you've not even made the attempt, same with Island Sanctuary. Don't worry though, I understand the gruelling tasks of the Loporrits are what kept you away from all that content!