How is anyone fine with the 4-month patch delivery schedule?

[Saraide]

I'm not even convinced they could do a faster schedule if they wanted to. The game is essentially coded in a single excel spreadsheet. Stuff just doesnt work. The upcoming wings in combat thing is a perfect indication for that: it wont apply to instance servers. The game's structure is just so fundamentally broken that there is no fixing it. It feels very similar to the flash version of binding of isaac.

[R041]

Because it's actually a sensible link to make. Video games, like almost anything else, are something that someone can be addicted to. When you claim that you hate everything about a game, yet cannot let yourself just break away from it, there very well may be a real addiction present.

How is having a house that you worked for, for years in an environment you used to love, but don't currently - considered an addiction? These braindead takes are wild. I bet you'd even assume we didn't even decorate it. lol

It's just holding onto assets / content that's difficult to re-obtain. Looking out for your community that may also eventually return. I'd feel pretty shit if I let the FC Large decay just because I personally felt salty about the game. We all hop back on for patch week. I give them the luxury of unsubbing if they want to make sure we hold the FC Large, but they also hold onto personal houses they want to return to eventually, so they usually stay subbed and just login every few weeks.

I'm sorry we don't fit the average Limsa AFK enjoying playstyle. There just isn't much to do in Endwalker, and that's a sad fact. If I was addicted, I'd be logged in actually playing.. Not on the forums memeing about catgirls.

[Alleluia]

I'm sincerely asking this: for those who want to grind and gain progression with repeatable content, if you've done all the weapon grinds, etc, can't you start an alt and do it again? Numbers would go up, checklists would be completed. If the grind is the point for you, wouldn't that work? Assuming you want to play and not just take a break and grind in another game, of course.

[Ath192]

I'm sincerely asking this: for those who want to grind and gain progression with repeatable content, if you've done all the weapon grinds, etc, can't you start an alt and do it again? Numbers would go up, checklists would be completed. If the grind is the point for you, wouldn't that work? Assuming you want to play and not just take a break and grind in another game, of course.

This is a bad take. Why ask for a new expansion? Can't you just play ARR again for 10 years? Why would you ever want something new you haven't played before to be provided. Crazy am I right?

This is the logic used against people asking for things here. Wow.

[Alleluia]

This is a bad take. Why ask for a new expansion? Can't you just play ARR again for 10 years? Why would you ever want something new you haven't played before to be provided. Crazy am I right?

This is the logic used against people asking for things here. Wow.

People seem like they're after the grind, not necessarily something new to do, while waiting for the new stuff to do that comes with new patches. If the grinding and achieving the goal is what someone wants, and they still want to play FF14 but they've finished their grinding already, then an alt isn't a horrible way to give yourself something to do while waiting for the new stuff, is it? Alt Eureka grind for every weapon alone should tide someone over btwn patches for a while.

Alternatively, on a main, progging ultimates, criterions, etc? Like, seriously, there is plenty of involved and grindy stuff to do in the game if you want it. And you can always just start an alt and do it again if you've really finished all of it.

[Ath192]

People seem like they're after the grind, not necessarily something new to do, while waiting for the new stuff to do that comes with new patches. If the grinding and achieving the goal is what someone wants, and they still want to play FF14 but they've finished their grinding already, then an alt isn't a horrible way to give yourself something to do while waiting for the new stuff, is it?

I mean I see what you are trying to reason. But I just think the fundamental understanding here is not correct. People here seem to be after something new to do and would welcome something grindy or repeatable to keep them entertained. I don't see many people looking to grind old content for grinds sake. If that were the case, then sure, that would be a viable solution. It's not what I want, and if I'm reading the room correctly it's not what most people want either.

[deston07]

People seem like they're after the grind

I mean I see what you are trying to reason. But I just think the fundamental understanding here is not correct. People here seem to be after something new to do and would welcome something grindy or repeatable to keep them entertained. I don't see many people looking to grind old content for grinds sake. If that were the case, then sure, that would be a viable solution. It's not what I want, and if I'm reading the room correctly it's not what most people want either.

something along the lines of Bozjan / Zadnor are very good examples. They are challenging, Give great rewards, and the XP is good. People still do them but anyone that played during Shadow Bringers would be sick of it.
there are lots of things to grind in the Sothern front but at some point you do get to a point it is mundane. Even going back on a new character it is easy b/c you already know the best way to do everything, and the mechs the bosses will use.

Deep dungeons are a challenge of sorts but get very boring quickly because all of them are the same tactics, and they come with the down side you can't just AFK to take short breaks while zone base grinds you can.

Personally i wish they did something along the lines of Bozjan/Zadnor, sadly though Deep Dungeons are much easier to make from a developer stand point.
Along with Story wise, the only place that would make any sense would be in the void, b/c everyone is still recovering from End of Days on Hydaelyn

Square Enix told us they are updating old content, and adding in QoL on top of developing 7.0 so they are likely spread to thin to really develop a ton for End Game content.

[Kaurhz]

I'm sincerely asking this: for those who want to grind and gain progression with repeatable content, if you've done all the weapon grinds, etc, can't you start an alt and do it again? Numbers would go up, checklists would be completed. If the grind is the point for you, wouldn't that work? Assuming you want to play and not just take a break and grind in another game, of course.

I will reply to this sincerely, as someone who has alts, and alts that arguably don't even look like alts anymore.

For people who are so embedded and relish in these sorts of grinds and systems, that completionism mentality can very quickly seep into your alts, and then before you know it, you have developed an inane and unhealthy habit. This was one such habit I had in SB, and it took ages to deviate from. At this point, you're better off just engaging in some of the more inane grinds, e.g., 'The Accursed' title. Or just outright taking a break to reflect if the game direction that you want is still there. Especially if you've already exhausted the content or grinds you want to do.

What this is doing is not necessarily giving those people more content, it is just a recipe for having people spend time on it for time's sake, rather than being done based on any logical reasoning or actual desire.

[Heavenchild]

I think 3 month was a better cycle for the players. 4 month is just too long and also content creators run out of things they could say about the game now.

In my opinion SE tries hard to rework older content and make the game better as a whole. But on the other side this means lackluster and nothing to do for all long time players. I also think that the game is in a bad state right now, regarding to fun and new good content.

3 month cycle means 4 patches in one year. And 4 month cycle means only 3 patches in a whole year. That IS a big difference.

[Deo14]

As a side note, cycles aren't even 4 months. Except for 6.1, so far they have been always significantly longer than the promised 4 months. 6.3 took over 4.6 months.

Releases:
6.0 - 7.12.2021
6.1 - 12.4.2022
6.2 - 23.8.2022
6.3 - 10.1.2023
6.4 - 23.5.2023

4 months ~= 121.5 days if we want to be pedantic

Cycles:
6.0-6.1 => 126 days = 4.14 months
6.1-6.2 => 133 days = 4.37 months
6.2-6.3 => 140 days = 4.60 months
6.3-6.4 => 133 days = 4.37 months

Average so far = 133 days = 4.37 months

"The major patch cycle cadence will be adjusted. Previously, it was 1 major patch every 3.5 months. Going forward it will be one major patch every four months. Roughly two weeks longer."

Adding extra 2.5 weeks to what is supposed to be 2 weeks is too rough in my opinion.