How is anyone fine with the 4-month patch delivery schedule?

[Saimeren]

I mean the fact that you have to go out of your way to find stuff to do to enjoy FF14 says it all really.

Then quit. If you're not happy with the game; leave. Go do anything else. Find something that'll make you happy enough that you don't constantly complain about optional past time activities.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Then quit. If you're not happy with the game; leave. Go do anything else. Find something that'll make you happy enough that you don't constantly complain about optional past time activities.

This is a horrible way to act to criticism. The whole point of the forums is to give criticism. Trying to gatekeep and deny that is this community’s biggest flaw. You don’t have to agree with peoples takes but please for the love of god stop hiding behind the “just unsub, don’t play the game.” A lot of people critique the game because they want to see it improved. With how much money the game makes, we’re allowed to share our opinions.

[LianaThorne]

This is a horrible way to act to criticism. The whole point of the forums is to give criticism. Trying to gatekeep and deny that is this community’s biggest flaw. You don’t have to agree with peoples takes but please for the love of god stop hiding behind the “just unsub, don’t play the game.” A lot of people critique the game because they want to see it improved. With how much money the game makes, we’re allowed to share our opinions.

Giving constructive criticism? On this forum? What a miracle that would be.

[Izar_Chillen]

This is a horrible way to act to criticism. The whole point of the forums is to give criticism. Trying to gatekeep and deny that is this community’s biggest flaw. You don’t have to agree with peoples takes but please for the love of god stop hiding behind the “just unsub, don’t play the game.” A lot of people critique the game because they want to see it improved. With how much money the game makes, we’re allowed to share our opinions.

Many would agree with you if

1 It was valid criticism displayed as a ration clear post about a players thoughts , positive and negative

2 OP wasn't posting subject matters that strike a nerve , almost on a daily basis , that dont criticise but complain or act in a manner like everyone else is wrong by being pro/against a hot topic/game news of the month

3 OP in recent threads has exposed that they and other well know problematic accounts are part of a group and stated in a reply that they have given up doing it to the scale they used to, on other well known accounts as they were running out of fresh ideas to aggravate these forum users with

[TaleraRistain]

This is a horrible way to act to criticism. The whole point of the forums is to give criticism. Trying to gatekeep and deny that is this community’s biggest flaw. You don’t have to agree with peoples takes but please for the love of god stop hiding behind the “just unsub, don’t play the game.” A lot of people critique the game because they want to see it improved. With how much money the game makes, we’re allowed to share our opinions.

People are allowed to give their opinions but that also should go with reasonable expectations. If someone only partakes of specific content in the game, their content is going to dry up. No developer is ever going to be able to keep up with the pace some players consume content at. If someone is unhappy with that situation, the most effective way to speak is with our wallets.

[Kyrj]

That's how they get you. 2 weeks at a time. 3 months. Then 3.5. Now 4. One day people will ask "why are we getting a patch every 6 months"? And people won't be able to pinpoint the turning point because it comes so gradually people are numb to it.



I mean the fact that you have to go out of your way to find stuff to do to enjoy FF14 says it all really.

The unsub argument is ridiculous considering all the ways the game keeps you hooked: housing, tome caps, Savage loot gates, seasonal events, etc.

I would be fine with the unsub argument if the game actually lets you unsub after a month and still allow you to be ready for Ultimates. As it stands, I have to play this game for three months to get BiS for two to three different roles in time for Ultimate. Even if I only cared about a single role that is still two months, which is 6-7 weeks more than necessary. Despite what Yoshi P says, this game is not unsub-friendly.

Not to mention that they intentionally stagger releases so that it covers 2 months of sub time: .x0, .x1, and .x5 always come out in waves to get maximum sub time out of people.

The unsub argument is just idiotic for both the players and Yoshida to use. Imagine starting a business and being fine with telling your customers to go use another product, just idiotic.

[Zeeningg]

That's how they get you. 2 weeks at a time. 3 months. Then 3.5. Now 4. One day people will ask "why are we getting a patch every 6 months"? And people won't be able to pinpoint the turning point because it comes so gradually people are numb to it.



I mean the fact that you have to go out of your way to find stuff to do to enjoy FF14 says it all really.

The unsub argument is ridiculous considering all the ways the game keeps you hooked: housing, tome caps, Savage loot gates, seasonal events, etc.

I would be fine with the unsub argument if the game actually lets you unsub after a month and still allow you to be ready for Ultimates. As it stands, I have to play this game for three months to get BiS for two to three different roles in time for Ultimate. Even if I only cared about a single role that is still two months, which is 6-7 weeks more than necessary. Despite what Yoshi P says, this game is not unsub-friendly.

Not to mention that they intentionally stagger releases so that it covers 2 months of sub time: .x0, .x1, and .x5 always come out in waves to get maximum sub time out of people.

yeah the housing is a big one, if you unsub for any length period of time in there because you breeze through the content quickly (no i won't go touch grass i pay for my sub and i want to use it) you lose the house you potentially waited(in my case 3) years for, because they somehow can't figure out how to do housing lol, i know i may get eviscerated for it but oh well, lotro is a wayyy older game with much worse graphics and YES a lower player count, but they have full blown neighborhoods with small medium and kinship houses as well where you can change the literal environment in your yard and music blah blah, slightly smaller neighborhoods and slightly less items per lot total, but probably 5-6 times the amount of overall housing available between all the different housing areas/styles, the game LITERALLY makes like 3% of what ff14 makes and they can figure out housing with significantly more of it on older systems with alot more jank, BS, spaghetti code(seriously.... fixing a class bug made a giant mountain spawn randomly in a starter zone), and WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY less money than square in a game with most of the same type of gameplay systems, i just can't believe that square has to yeeeeeeeet houses after a few weeks because they have so few lavailable and it's such a nightmare to get one, otherwise i'd be alot more inclinced to do as yoshi.p says and take a break -.- sucks paying for 2 mmos at a time but i ain't losing this house i recently won after spending multiple 12 and 2 18 hour days(i have no life) clicking placards before the lottery system and losing, then losing the lotteries every week since lol

[CaptainLagbeard]

Because you're not required to play the entire time.

Most people could probably finish what they want to do for the patch in like a month or so, then they can just let the sub drop and not be punished in any way. Then come back for the next patch.

[SamsaraTrickstar]

Because you're not required to play the entire time.

Most people could probably finish what they want to do for the patch in like a month or so, then they can just let the sub drop and not be punished in any way. Then come back for the next patch.

onlly lose time gear? raid gear? and the house they got.

[Johners]

Content delivery in an MMO is very difficult and generally speaking, players will consume content faster than a developer can make it. Single player games might spend 3-5 years in development but you’ll then complete it, or at least the parts you’re interested in, with a month of the game releasing. Horizon Forbidden West, the recently released PlayStation exclusive, spent years in development and I got the platinum trophy in 40 hours of gameplay.

Back on the topic of MMORPGs though, I think Final Fantasy has better content pacing than other games and especially to World of Warcraft in particular. WoW expansions are typically frontloaded with the full content cycle in the initial 12 or so months and then you spend a year playing the last patch. I’d rather okay an even spread of content every four months instead of the game consuming my time for a year and then leaving me hanging for another.

The longest gap between a patch and an expansion releasing was the end of Mists of Pandaria into Warlords of Draenor at 14 months. The big expansion releases are important in these games so you can’t do those faster (Blizzard tried and it failed before they even released anything) so the question then becomes how do you pace content between expansion drops.

I’d happily play FFXIV with patches every four months so I get good hoses of content but then periods of “raid logging” to clear and gear before going offline to play a story game. Today is reset day so I’ll do my reset activities and then not play until Saturday to collect weekly cactpot. Rather than being given a reason to log in that’s fairly arbitrary, I’m free to do other things such as play Gran Turismo 7 when it releases on Friday.