This game is on a terrible state right now.

[Derio]

The problem is criterion is a failure in terms of rewards. Relic grind is not a grind its basically Hildibrand story with tomestone dump. Deep dungeon doesnt do anything to shake up the norm in terms of content. Island sanctuary is a farming simulator that doesnt promote group content and people are hoping it helps with housing issues which so far it hasnt.

Most expansions we have had some sort of extra content---> Diadem, Eureka, Bozja.

Since we dont have that this expansion we are heavily dependent on savage and extreme content. And that is why this expansion feels flat.

[Tint]

Island sanctuary is a farming simulator that doesnt promote group content and people are hoping it helps with housing issues which so far it hasnt.

Island Sanctuary is also very bad at being a farming simulator. There is no real purpose, no gameplay loop which is enough on it's own to keep players interested. No greater goal. The whole farming is just a time gate for the island shop. Once you have bought everything there is no reason to ever set foot onto your island again.

[aveyond-dreams]

Island Sanctuary is also very bad at being a farming simulator. There is no real purpose, no gameplay loop which is enough on it's own to keep players interested. No greater goal. The whole farming is just a time gate for the island shop. Once you have bought everything there is no reason to ever set foot onto your island again.

Bottom line: was it worth the loss of relic zones or restoration content?

Absolutely not.

[R041]

Sorry, I forgot children can’t survive five minutes without entertainment, either that or sad adults trying to escape their boring realities

We're all on the FFXIV forum, I'd imagine we're pretty sad already. lol

[SassyAssassin]

We're all on the FFXIV forum, I'd imagine we're pretty sad already. lol

Yeah but you always have a choice. You can complain as much as you want, we all do, but if ALL you put your energy into is complaining about a game you dislike so much since a year or more and see no change going in the direction you’d like, then why not spend your time on the forums of the games you DO like? A choice to surround yourself with things that do you good vs things that clearly don’t.

I understand complaining but being here 24/7 ONLY complaining sounds like a weird self destructive addiction and this isn’t necessarily referring to you, as were neither of my original posts on this thread.

You could also do everyone the favor of just minding your own business and not involve yourself in conversations critical of the game if you'd rather not see them.

Hey look, the narcissist decided to read what anyone else has to say for once. It’s a forum, meaning everything is up for discussion and I, like many others that unfortunately have left this forsaken place, do NOT want to see this game turn into an Aveyond wet dream, so sorry devil man, my business is right here.

[aveyond-dreams]

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You could also do everyone the favor of just minding your own business and not involve yourself in conversations critical of the game if you'd rather not see them.

[R041]

The problem is criterion is a failure in terms of rewards. Relic grind is not a grind its basically Hildibrand story with tomestone dump. Deep dungeon doesnt do anything to shake up the norm in terms of content. Island sanctuary is a farming simulator that doesnt promote group content and people are hoping it helps with housing issues which so far it hasnt.

Most expansions we have had some sort of extra content---> Diadem, Eureka, Bozja.

Since we dont have that this expansion we are heavily dependent on savage and extreme content. And that is why this expansion feels flat.

Island Sanctuary is as deep as Fashion Report. So imagine us getting that instead of a whole ass multiplayer Exploratory Mission/Zone. lol

[NekiUno]

Thank you for proving my point that no matter if someone actually provides constructive feedback or not, it will always get denied by the white knights of this forum, including you of course.

Even know I am enjoyed this battle between Stormpeaks, R041 and SassyAssassin, I think yall have a point......to a degree

Constructive feedback is fine, in fact it is very necessarily in anything we do from going for new job or improving this game, both in the sense of your own gameplay to all of the things they added thought out the years...as long you actually did the content for it and not just spitball it or just trashing it for no apparent reason at all plus willing to give a proper reasons why it does not work and any solutions they might want to come up to better your experience. But remember what you like or recommend, maybe somebody else will not like it for different reasons but need to be respected. Same thing with White Knight as well, it is okay to White Knight as long you understand that everybody might not share your opinion but atleast willing to listen to them and maybe it will give you a better understand about it. It probably change your perspective about something that you might not even know about.

I been in this game for almost nine years now and that does not even count my time in 1.0, there is alot of things this game can get better from better job adjustments to even more customizations (third party apps has show it can be done) and maybe better graphic and UI too, maybe more lore and story as well. But it is those imperfections that make a good MMO great like how Warcraft and EverQuest great because they will always continue to improved their games even know they might have way worst than FF right now and their fanbase probably wants more as well or having constructive feedback about it (how long it took Blizz to start have cross factions guilds?). If you do not like it, just say why and if you like it, just say why as well. Let me be after that. Because at the end of day, it is our own opinions and each player will have to find their own answers about that.

[aveyond-dreams]

Even know I am enjoyed this battle between Stormpeaks, R041 and SassyAssassin, I think both of yall have a point......to a degree

Constructive feedback is fine, in fact it is very necessarily in anything we do from going for new job or improving this game, both in the sense of your own gameplay to all of the things they added thought out the years...as long you actually did the content for it and not just spitball it or just trashing it for no apparent reason at all plus willing to give a proper reason why it does not work and any solutions they might want to come up to better your experience. But remember what you like or recommend, maybe somebody else will not like it for different reasons but need to be respected. Same thing with White Knight as well, it is okay to White Knight as long you understand that everybody might not share your opinion but atleast willing to listen to them and maybe it will give you a better understand about it. It probably change your perspective about something that you might not even know about.

I been in this game for almost nine years now and that does not even count my time in 1.0, there is alot of things this game can get better out, from better job adjustments to even more customizations (third party apps has show it can be done) and maybe better graphic and UI too, maybe more lore and story as well. But it is those imperfections that make a good MMO great like how Warcraft, Runscrape and EverQuest great because they will always continue to improved their games even know they might have way worst than FF right now. If you do not like it, just say why and if you like it, just say why as well. Because at the end of day, it is our own opinions and the players will have to find their own answers about this.

If Yoship cannot even be bothered to play content as riveting as Island Sanctuary himself, as he has stated per his own words he hasn't touched it on his personal account, then I see no reason as to why I should subject myself to it before I can criticize something with flaws that glaringly obvious.

The same goes for many other things.

[R041]

I understand complaining but being here 24/7 ONLY complaining sounds like a weird self destructive addiction and this isn’t necessarily referring to you, as were neither of my original posts on this thread.

I'm not here 24/7, I take pretty significant breaks for months at a time. You just caught me on a good day where I want to meme for entertainment. For some reason you feel the need to fight against the meme.

If the forums are always like this, it's not because of me. It seems to be a consistent issue then.