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  1. #111
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi View Post
    I, unironically, would not mind if the dungeon barriers remained sealed while a Cutscene is up, not force everyone onto the cutscene, just keep it locked, you would still be able to emote, run around, sort your inventory, anything, while waiting, but the 30 second wait would be mandatory, and that would hardly "make everything into Praet", as someone somewhere in this thread tried to strawman the point, nobody would complain about Praet if the extent of the mandatory cutscene was Gaius going "En garde, have at ye!", or whatever, in under a minute, the problem is that we have to watch to Cid discuss his daddy issues with Gaius, then attend to Cid and Nero's couples therapy session, then Gaius' monologue, that's what makes it add up, its nowhere near the same as most other dungeons.
    Yeah I honestly wouldn't mind that either. Can still emote at each other and get ready for the barrier to fall.

    Last time this topic came up, not only were there people who said they pull no matter what and weren't going to wait for the sprout, but held that they felt they could also report anyone who didn't immediately run in with them as griefing. So just locking it would eliminate that sort of nonsense take.
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  2. #112
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    Deslanthe's Avatar
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    Lissle Deslanthe
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    You can wait for new people to watch the cutscenes, if not then I will let you die since i heal.
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  3. #113
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    Celine_Aurora's Avatar
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    Celine Aurora
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    20 seconds times 23 is 460 seconds. That's nearly 8 minutes. Every time you watch a cutscene you're wasting 8 minutes.
    It's not even bait at this point.
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  4. #114
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    hunkygladiator's Avatar
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    Men-on Edge
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    Jenova
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Lmao the fact that even in EW, an expansion filled with babies, when you pull early most of the time people will just join you proves that most people actually just don't want to wait. Everyone's just afraid of being the one to do it and get shamed.

    If people actually cared they would let you die but nope. People just want someone to make the first move and get the flak from the one or two busybody moral crusaders in the raid.
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  5. #115
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    Xirean Summit
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    Lmao the fact that even in EW, an expansion filled with babies, when you pull early most of the time people will just join you proves that most people actually just don't want to wait. Everyone's just afraid of being the one to do it and get shamed.

    If people actually cared they would let you die but nope. People just want someone to make the first move and get the flak from the one or two busybody moral crusaders in the raid.
    Not really. It's more a question of time efficiency. Letting that one person who pulled (and the few who joined them) die would add more time by having them come all the way back to that fight. Or they get raised with weakness debuff. I really do prefer when people wait for the newbies to watch the cutscene, but if it's already pulled then the ship has already sailed on that.
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  6. #116
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    Veya Akemi
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Not really. It's more a question of time efficiency. Letting that one person who pulled (and the few who joined them) die would add more time by having them come all the way back to that fight. Or they get raised with weakness debuff. I really do prefer when people wait for the newbies to watch the cutscene, but if it's already pulled then the ship has already sailed on that.
    Also the alert around the boss being pulled causes a reaction of alarm from people, and they move in without rationalizing because they just go "Oh fug I need to be there, stat!", I actually have an example from a while back, where a BA run failed because some people jumped down to Ozma, and started the fight prematurely, leading to most other people jumping down unprepared when the alert went up, which led to everyone who jumped down dying, the run lead had to make a call where the few survivors initiated the fight, and played it out just long enough for Ozma to use Black Hole, so that everyone would be sucked outside of BA where they'd be able to be rezzed and thus not lose XP.
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  7. #117
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deslanthe View Post
    You can wait for new people to watch the cutscenes, if not then I will let you die since i heal.
    You do know tank could do the same to you. Just turn off tank stance after a big pull.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deslanthe View Post
    You can wait for new people to watch the cutscenes, if not then I will let you die since i heal.
    Wow you sure showed them by having the run be longer for everyone, including your cute sprouts, and eating a report!
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  9. #119
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    Hazy Dreams
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deslanthe View Post
    You can wait for new people to watch the cutscenes, if not then I will let you die since i heal.
    Will 100% report your behaviour
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  10. #120
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Will 100% report your behaviour
    You guys are being a bunch of Randalls crying out to Ms. Finster. Person didnt even do it yet (I assume)
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