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  1. #11
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    PredatoryCatgirl's Avatar
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    Khara Relanah
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    They really should move away from the static Lodestone links that always will lead people who know it back to your character It would really help people who have issues with things like these
    That's kind of a double edged sword. I have friends who use that to keep track of people who have harassed them, just in case they change their names and try it again.
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  2. #12
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    That's kind of a double edged sword. I have friends who use that to keep track of people who have harassed them, just in case they change their names and try it again.
    Its obvious why letting stalkers track their victim via lodestone, even after region change or name change, is a bad idea, let alone the friend list keeping them there as well, it's not a double edged sword, its a red carpet for victims to be followed anywhere and everywhere
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  3. #13
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Blacklist and forget them. Even if they change servers or their name, they will remain blacklisted and unable to talk to you on their main character.

    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    That's kind of a double edged sword. I have friends who use that to keep track of people who have harassed them, just in case they change their names and try it again.
    If the harassers are in the same world region, your friends can data center travel there and /blacklist instead of letting the harassers live rent free in your friends' minds and browser bookmarks. They wouldn't have to do anything at all if they had used blacklist as soon as they ran into trouble makers.
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  4. #14
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    Khara Relanah
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Its obvious why letting stalkers track their victim via lodestone, even after region change or name change, is a bad idea, let alone the friend list keeping them there as well, it's not a double edged sword, its a red carpet for victims to be followed anywhere and everywhere
    Are you deliberately ignoring the part about how it allows the victim to track the abuser as well so they cannot change their name and come back, or did you miss that part? That is why its a double edged sword.
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  5. #15
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Halicarnassus
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    Are you deliberately ignoring the part about how it allows the victim to track the abuser as well so they cannot change their name and come back, or did you miss that part? That is why its a double edged sword.
    Pretty sure you've never actually had stalkers or harassers in this game (which in all honesty is good for you), but stalkers use free trial accounts to keep up with their victims, or just use alt characters to bypass the blacklist, I would know as I got played by a manipulative ex in this game and I got played by him faking multiple characters on both his main account and multiple alt accounts, even post break up. It's not hard to make a trial account or make another alt character.
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  6. #16
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    That's kind of a double edged sword. I have friends who use that to keep track of people who have harassed them, just in case they change their names and try it again.
    There's no double-edged sword behind it.

    It isn't necessary for any given player to track another player's name change. The only thing a player needs to be concerned with is whether the behaviour is occurring in the first place. A GM and any relevant parties to that will be able to track this and sanction as accordingly.

    Whilst this theoretically means that a player can 'worm their way' into your circles and repeat such, etc., the benefits of a static lodestone link do not outweigh the possibility for maliciousness. Static lodestone links pretty much openly facilitate both stalker and witch-hunting behavior (if you elect to track such), to the extent that if people so wished they could outright blockade another player from certain communities entirely.
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  7. #17
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    PredatoryCatgirl's Avatar
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    Khara Relanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Pretty sure you've never actually had stalkers or harassers in this game (which in all honesty is good for you), but stalkers use free trial accounts to keep up with their victims, or just use alt characters to bypass the blacklist, I would know as I got played by a manipulative ex in this game and I got played by him faking multiple characters on both his main account and multiple alt accounts, even post break up. It's not hard to make a trial account or make another alt character.
    Some do and some don't. I haven't had them but I've had friends that had. Trial characters are limited in a lot of ways. I'm not saying that doesn't happen, but it hasn't happened in any of the incidences of stalking or harassment I've seen.
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  8. #18
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Blacklist them and ignore them. Also ask your friends not to share any personal information with them. I learned that hard way when online stalking developed into real life stalking.
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  9. #19
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Become so unlikable that nobody would want to stalk you anyway. Works for me.
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  10. #20
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Become so unlikable that nobody would want to stalk you anyway. Works for me.
    Can confirm, am unlikable, don't have stalkers.
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