Prediction: Female Hrothgar will be human-like, not beast-like

[Fawkes]

What we will get is not a female pendant to male Hrothgar but instead big female Miqote.

We already have miqote, big miqote wouldn't be much more popular than the ugly beastlike option.

Female elezen aren't ugly they're just tall ladies but literally nobody plays as them.

[Gemina]

We already have miqote, big miqote wouldn't be much more popular than the ugly beastlike option.

Female elezen aren't ugly they're just tall ladies but literally nobody plays as them.

You'd think they would be more popular considering how prominent elves are in fiction and fantasy, but they are just not as attractive as some of the other race choices in the game. If female Hrothgars are made more on the beastly side, they will suffer the same fate without question. If the dev team wants players to choose this race, they will undoubtedly have to contest female Viera, Miqo'te, and Hyur.

My prediction is they will resemble Cheetara from Thundercats.

[Rymi64]

You'd think they would be more popular considering how prominent elves are in fiction and fantasy, but they are just not as attractive as some of the other race choices in the game. If female Hrothgars are made more on the beastly side, they will suffer the same fate without question. If the dev team wants players to choose this race, they will undoubtedly have to contest female Viera, Miqo'te, and Hyur.

My prediction is they will resemble Cheetara from Thundercats.

They dont need to contest the other races, this isnt for them its for people that wanna play a beast race they've said this

[Gemina]

They dont need to contest the other races, this isnt for them its for people that wanna play a beast race they've said this

They fulfilled that promise with male Hrothgar, and delivered the beast race. The decision to include the females came after. Female avatars are the most chosen by players. Many of whom are male players who want something attractive to look at while they go on their adventures. It is also well known that female gamers prefer to control an attractive avatar as well, so female Hrothgar contesting with the other female races is a given.

Another factor to consider are the headgear complaints, which will continue if female Hrothgar followed the same direction as their male counterparts. They can avoid this by making the females more human in appearance, but by doing so they will undoubtedly face criticism for not making the females more beastly. It's a tough decision for the dev team either way, and the choice they make will be determined by what they feel players want the most. Nobody said they are doing this for them.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

They fulfilled that promise with male Hrothgar, and delivered the beast race. Female avatars are the most chosen by players. Many of whom are male players who want something attractive to look at while they go on their adventures. It is also well known that female gamers prefer to control an attractive avatar as well, so female Hrothgar contesting with the other female races is a given.

......So we are just suppose to be ok with a Male only: Genderlocked Beast Race.
Meanwhile the Viera, who have ONLY been presented as Female all throughout FF history, are not allowed to be Gender-locked.
Literally Playboy Bunny Girls are put into the game, but we "Need" a male counter-part that never existed (well, illustrated) even though Female Characters/Avatars are the most Chosen.

That was needed.
But its not ok to have a REAL Female Counterpart to the Hrothgar: a Beastrace, just because human-looking is more popular. So essentially, we shouldn't get ""Female Hrothgar"" but should just get a 3rd Clan of Female-Only Miqote. And Hrothgar players should just be ok with a Male-Only Beast Race.
Screw Them Right?

Y'know.....how can anyone say that a Real Female-Counterpart wouldnt or Couldnt be Pretty? That they really wouldnt be popular?

Another factor to consider are the headgear complaints, which will continue if female Hrothgar followed the same direction as their male counterparts. They can avoid this by making the females more human in appearance, but by doing so they will undoubtedly face criticism for not making the females more beastly. It's a tough decision for the dev team either way, and the choice they make will be determined by what they feel players want the most. Nobody said they are doing this for them.

Considering how apparently people dont like Beast Races so much...Id argue that even IF they were able to wear headgear, it wouldn't matter or boost their population. But you know a better way they can avoid if not outright solve this problem? And its actually a Very easy Solution....Not be lazy, and just take the extra time to make a Hrothgar Version. Or at the very least: similar to how they said they were going to make Unique Hairstyles for the Hrothgar, create some Unique Lv.1 Headgear to make up for it. Create a handful of Helms, and hats, and other types of headgear specifically made for the Hrothgar. Make a couple different styles, and make them Dyeable. And they could add more over time. Sell it in General shops that also sell the Race Specific Starting Gear for cheap.
This for the Viera as well.

Its extra work, but that shouldnt be the excuse to leave the Hrothgar: a Race THEY said THEY WANTED to make, behind on options.

[VeyaAkemi]

And Hrothgar players should just be ok with a Male-Only Beast Race.

I generally agree with your point, but it has been repeatedly pointed out, if half-jokingly, that the average Hrothgar player isn't particularly bent out of shape by the absence of women.

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The joke being they are all gay furries who are into Bara.

[RyuDragnier]

I generally agree with your point, but it has been repeatedly pointed out, if half-jokingly, that the average Hrothgar player isn't particularly bent out of shape by the absence of women.

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The joke being they are all gay furries who are into Bara.

And you dare disrespect the men who are into women who can destroy them!? FOR SHAME WITH YOU!

[Gemina]

......So we are just suppose to be ok with a Male only: Genderlocked Beast Race.
Meanwhile the Viera, who have ONLY been presented as Female all throughout FF history, are not allowed to be Gender-locked.
Literally Playboy Bunny Girls are put into the game, but we "Need" a male counter-part that never existed (well, illustrated) even though Female Characters/Avatars are the most Chosen.

That was needed.
But its not ok to have a REAL Female Counterpart to the Hrothgar: a Beastrace, just because human-looking is more popular. So essentially, we shouldn't get ""Female Hrothgar"" but should just get a 3rd Clan of Female-Only Miqote. And Hrothgar players should just be ok with a Male-Only Beast Race.
Screw Them Right?

Y'know.....how can anyone say that a Real Female-Counterpart wouldnt or Couldnt be Pretty? That they really wouldnt be popular?

Your passion is admirable and understandable. However, I don't make the rules or set the status quo. The predictions I make are based on what I have personally observed in the game and from the many statements and LLs released from the dev team. This does not mean the decision has already been made to make female Hrothgar more human-like in their appearance. They may very well be more beastly like the males.

As for being pretty and popular. This assessment doesn't come from an observation of the game or dev statements. This comes from the fact that most people are not attracted to animals, coupled with how much players enjoy controlling attractive characters across all genres of games. Think about those who do choose to play races such as Viera, Miqo'te, and Au ra. Then think about how most players still choose CC options that make them look more human.

Considering how apparently people dont like Beast Races so much...Id argue that even IF they were able to wear headgear, it wouldn't matter or boost their population. But you know a better way they can avoid if not outright solve this problem? And its actually a Very easy Solution....Not be lazy, and just take the extra time to make a Hrothgar Version. Or at the very least: similar to how they said they were going to make Unique Hairstyles for the Hrothgar, create some Unique Lv.1 Headgear to make up for it. Create a handful of Helms, and hats, and other types of headgear specifically made for the Hrothgar. Make a couple different styles, and make them Dyeable. And they could add more over time. Sell it in General shops that also sell the Race Specific Starting Gear for cheap.
This for the Viera as well.

Its extra work, but that shouldnt be the excuse to leave the Hrothgar: a Race THEY said THEY WANTED to make, behind on options.

I wouldn't say the devs are lazy, but I do agree that the proper amount of time should be taken to make the races they release complete so that all races have equal access to CC options and glamour choices. I'm also totally on board for more race specific gear, but the dev team doesn't get a whole lot of love for restrictions on gear.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Your passion is admirable and understandable. However, I don't make the rules or set the status quo. The predictions I make are based on what I have personally observed in the game and from the many statements and LLs released from the dev team. This does not mean the decision has already been made to make female Hrothgar more human-like in their appearance. They may very well be more beastly like the males.

As for being pretty and popular. This assessment doesn't come from an observation of the game or dev statements. This comes from the fact that most people are not attracted to animals, coupled with how much players enjoy controlling attractive characters across all genres of games. Think about those who do choose to play races such as Viera, Miqo'te, and Au ra. Then think about how most players still choose CC options that make them look more human.

The AuRa are what they are. We saw early concept art of just Ideas. Nothing was concrete or Finalized (Or they just didnt show us yet)
Hrothgar, are a Beastrace. They Are Anthropomorphic BiPedal Cat People. We have a concrete base, they should follow that base as you would for any structure you are building. Its 100% more sensical to follow that base, rather then drastically deviate into making Miqote 2.0, just case Popular & Money. If either of those things really actually mattered, they wouldn't have made a Beast Race to begin with.
Then the conversation would be: "Man, It sucks we dont have a Beastrace option" instead of: "Man, where is the Female Gender for this Beastrace"

Im not attracted to Animals either, I just find Beastmen Cool and Interesting, always have. A Little Fox Dude that can summon a Meteor Eclipse, A Rat Assassin, or a Dragonlady Crushing her Enemies with an Axe is just more fun and interesting to me then playing a Human-looking girl or Guy With Bunny or Cat Ears.
I dont want to play a Female Beastman / FemHroth to Stir My Loins, I want to play a Non-Human / Human-Looking Character because its Different from the Abundance of Humanoid Options we already have, and I think the Aestetic is just really Cool.
Every Fantasy Game should have at least 1 or 2 Beastraces. We Always get Humans, Orcs, Elves, and sometimes Dwarves. But hardly ever something not Human-Looking, much less a playable Beastman.
Just because a playerbase for a Niche option is small, doesn't mean it doesn't exist or shouldnt exist.

I wouldn't say the devs are lazy, but I do agree that the proper amount of time should be taken to make the races they release complete so that all races have equal access to CC options and glamour choices. I'm also totally on board for more race specific gear, but the dev team doesn't get a whole lot of love for restrictions on gear.

Them not doing it and just leaving the Hrothgar out to dry...to me is Lazy. Especially because of the amount of time they have had to address this issue. Im not trying to be an Armchair Dev here, but I think either Creating some Race Unique Lv1 gear to makeup for the lack of headgear to the 2 Races. Or just taking the extra time to make a Hrothgar Version, even adding earholes for the Viera, would have been the best if not optimal solution to Hrothgar missing out on Headgear.