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    kaynide's Avatar
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    What SE uses and what people want just happen to line up sometimes, and more often than not they don't line up. If it did Chemist, Geomancer, Necromancer, Puppetmaster, Beastmaster, Corsair, Thief, Rune Knight, Mystic Knight, Brawler and so forth would be playable jobs in FFXIV.

    Everyone knew that a new healer was coming with EW, but this doesn't necessarily mean SE was forced to release Sage. If the game still had just three healers, the game would still be here today, and very likely still have the same amount of active subs it does currently. Again, SE is very calculated with what they release and when. We got Sage this expansion because it made the most sense.

    BLU will never be made a full job. It does not and cannot be counted towards the current roster of available jobs for standard PvE. BLU is entirely its own content. I know players think the possibility is high for a new magical and physical ranged DPS because there are three of each, but this is wishful thinking. SE does not view the job roster in this fashion. They will no doubt look at the jobs across all roles and see that there are currently 10 ranged jobs (includes the healers), and 9 melee jobs (includes the tanks). Diversifying the roster even further by adding even more ranged jobs be it magical, physical, or both just isn't feasible based on the track record of decision making this dev team does.

    As for #4, we are in agreeance here, but I will elaborate even further. HW was the only expansion that based all of its jobs in the city that came with it. MCH, DRK, and AST are all unlocked and based in Ishgard. Even several of ARR's jobs were based in areas that did not come until later DRG (Ishgard), MNK (Ala Mhigo), and with SCH, their founding city of Nym is in ruins and there is now way presently we can actually go there. It is more accurate to say that SE shoehorns the lore of a job into one of the new areas like they did with GNB, DNC, SGE, and RPR.
    I’m not sure you get what I’m saying about blue mage. It is physically listed in your character status page as a “magical ranged” job. That is what I am talking about when I say organizing jobs and their placement on that specific page is fluid. I am not talking about how they play or their content, strictly how they are organized.

    Originally that list was only melee and ranged, with the original list having 3 ranged (blm, Brd, smn) and 2 dps (mnk, drg). Ninja gave “balance” with 3/3 pre HW, then it got rearranged and split ranged into physical and magical ranged. Currently Blu is listed as “magical ranged”. My point was that it could someday be moved to a specific other place on that status page to redefine how jobs are organized, and that in the future this page could simply be labeled as their gear sets (aka striking, scouting, casting, healing, tanking and limited).
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    I’m not sure you get what I’m saying about blue mage. It is physically listed in your character status page as a “magical ranged” job. That is what I am talking about when I say organizing jobs and their placement on that specific page is fluid. I am not talking about how they play or their content, strictly how they are organized.

    Originally that list was only melee and ranged, with the original list having 3 ranged (blm, Brd, smn) and 2 dps (mnk, drg). Ninja gave “balance” with 3/3 pre HW, then it got rearranged and split ranged into physical and magical ranged. Currently Blu is listed as “magical ranged”. My point was that it could someday be moved to a specific other place on that status page to redefine how jobs are organized, and that in the future this page could simply be labeled as their gear sets (aka striking, scouting, casting, healing, tanking and limited).
    Fluid would mean the jobs on that page are constantly changing and being rearranged. While it may have been that way in the past when the devs were trying to get a grip on things; presently they are the exact opposite of that, and are static. I don't see them being arranged again anytime soon, particularly because the dev team uses role quests now, which further cements their current position on that page. They have everything nice and neat now, with the only exception to their desired symmetry being the lack of a sixth melee class. They will fix this in 7.0.

    If there is a change, it will very likely be with BLU, and they will fit it into its own category separate from the other casters and jobs. They might even this out as well by releasing another limited job that is physically based. Whether that new limited job is ranged or melee is another matter. Either way, my main point is the BLU is not included in the overall roster when considering the next job they will add to the game.
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