why the crystal tower raids are still part of the roulette?

[Amenara]

I'll be the odd one out and say I don't really care what I get when I queue for alliance raid roulette. If it's CT, great I can get it done fast, if not, great, it will be more fun than CT (unless it's Dun Scaith, still hate that one).

[Ishe-P]

I think this would be less of a problem if the overall time to complete was re-evaluated and normalized. If it takes, say, 20 minutes, to complete any raid in the roulette queue, on average, I think there would be a lot more variety in what people would be willing to do. Unfortunately, this is not bound to happen as the clear rates as they are now are kind of locked in. They'd have to retool the bosses and there is no way in hell they'd throw resources at it.

But hard agree that CT should be turned into a dungeon. How many more years will it take to get there, do you think? 10? Can you imagine people still running CT unironically in Alliance roulette in 2033?

[magitekLuna]

magitekLuna's entire post history at this point is starting to sound like "I want YoshiP to personally break into every newbie's house and shoot them in the head for daring to inconvenience me".

No, being seriously, while I agree the ways people exploit roulette is a problem, there is still a strong point that even in a perfect world where everyone has every single raid roulette unlocked, the bottom denominator would always be the most common by a wide margin, by nature of being the bottom denominator, if you removed CT, Shadows of Mnach would be most common, and you'd get people complaining that they've done Dun Scaith 200 times already and they are tired of it, and what you do then? every roulette has this issue, 50/60/70/80 and leveling roulette are predominantly ARR content, normal roulettes is predominantly Alexander, there isn't really a way to give you the fix you want, it'd be just a temporary solution.

you are totally wrong here. if any thing i one of the people that will love to see yoshi move on from running ff14.i don't see him as someone that can fix things as all the problems we have now are from him. now i don't think he is bad or any thing . by move on i will like him to run SE.
as to newbie's point, they are in no way shape or form are the problem.

[magitekLuna]

What the hell are you talking about?

Hating doing some specific Semi-AFK content for easy XP = Hating the game?

You do know Alliance Raids are a joke right? The majority of people don't give a flying f. I'm sorry if thats peak gameplay for you lmao...

And I don't want to play "the less I can", I want to do the things I actually want instead of waste 40 minutes in a Nier raid when I can get the same experience from a 15 min Crystal Tower raid. That's 25 minutes I could be doing retainers, subs, EX trials, beast tribes, etc.

what supper under preforming party's you need to get to stay 40 min in Nier raids? and sorry but its sound like you (and lots of people to be honest) saying you want to get the most easy and fast content as you can in the roulettes to finish it faster. to do what then? afk? play other games? as if its to do raids a 5-10 min longer roulette (all of them together) will not hurt you.
don't take its as a personal attack as its not. i just hear that same old thing over and over.

Because spending 15 minutes instead of 45 in old content is based.

what 45 min?? you don't know how to play and all the time getting 23 more players that don't know how to play at all? this raids take 20-30 min . you cant just afk there as well. so i really don't get it why people want to just afk in ff14 over playing it

[TaleraRistain]

40 minutes is pretty much the average in Paradigm's Breach because of the damage sponge bosses and that's when everyone in the raid is on point. Similar times in the other two because, again, the damage sponge bosses.

If we want a good average time, the average to run something like Ridorana or Orbonne or Dun Scaith is a good meter to use. CT skews it too low. Nier skews it too high.

[Themarvin]

They should move it to MSQ roulette due to the reason people cheat and exploit their iLevel down so they wont get anything newer than that.

If you remove it, they just all cheat to hit the level 60 24 man raids.

It is as simple as that, the fix should be when you hit level 60 there will be a lock on Alliance Roulette, where you need a minimumi ilevel to queu in the minimum for Dun Scaith... at level 70 the bar will be raised to the Orbonne Monastarie and so on and so forth.

It will plug the problem for good, because there is nothing wrong with those raids and for SE STILL allowing people to exploit/cheat to only queu in for onesided trash really is in heavy conflict with the ToS about hindering possible content on purpose.... and hey if keep yelling about that it is a gear issue then you pretty much get a new gear set thrown at you for free at every 10 levels from 50 and up.... and all gear can be bought for the basic tomes ( poetics ) up to level 80 and they can be acquired from lots of things.

It is no wonder the game is starting to push people away, especially when you only get the same old same old all the time, NO ONE WANTS CRYSTAL TOWER, all the time.

[UkcsAlias]

The reason CT won't go away is that it is necessary for MSQ.

*Looks at prae and castrum*

Changes can be made!

[Kaurhz]

You aren't exactly proposing very bright solutions if your opening one is to plant this in the MSQ roulette. All you're doing is passing the issue from one roulette pool to another. In essence, you aren't solving a damn thing. Equally, pushing these into solo instances is just... No. There's no reason they need to relegate the ARR alliance raids to a solo experience just because you feel like you're tired of them, and most especially when there are still better solutions.

They just need to increase the minimum Item Level requirement so that it scales based on which expansion you're in. E.g., if you are 50-59, the minimum item level is 70, if you're 60-69 then the minimum item level becomes 205, if you're 70-79 then it becomes 335, and if you're 80-89 then it becomes 465. This way you cannot shaft your gear without making the roulette inaccessible. This I believe would resolve the problem of people shafting their Item level, and the rewards can be increased accordingly.

Furthermore, they do need to rework the scaling with these ARR raids, after all the changes we've had, they're simply wet noodles. Furthermore, they really need to look into resistance weapons relics. These are by far the most abysmally designed relic series we've had thus far, in this regard. Attach loathsome memories to the roulette itself as opposed to a particular series of alliance raids, e.g., Crystal Tower (Which they are) - This just exacerbates the issue, and quite significantly.

[magitekLuna]

40 minutes is pretty much the average in Paradigm's Breach because of the damage sponge bosses and that's when everyone in the raid is on point. Similar times in the other two because, again, the damage sponge bosses.

If we want a good average time, the average to run something like Ridorana or Orbonne or Dun Scaith is a good meter to use. CT skews it too low. Nier skews it too high.

i dont know never got one longer that 30 min after the patch it was new in.

[VeyaAkemi]

40 minutes is pretty much the average in Paradigm's Breach because of the damage sponge bosses and that's when everyone in the raid is on point. Similar times in the other two because, again, the damage sponge bosses.

If we want a good average time, the average to run something like Ridorana or Orbonne or Dun Scaith is a good meter to use. CT skews it too low. Nier skews it too high.

This is part of my frustration with Nier raids, half the time it feels the bosses just... drag, like yeah in a literal sense it makes them harder because longer fights give more room for mistakes, but it also makes them incredibly dull.