Housing For Free Companies Needs Desperate Attention

[Jojoya]

Use the FC rooms and create alts.... each room could represent a part in the FC.... had a friend who did that... the entire houses was like a ship... with all kinds of rooms, just saying of course.

And also the decoration limit for FFXIV makes the game dekadent and silly to have to shut off areas in Houses Medium/large because the limit is to low.

You make it sound like every FC is a solo FC. That's far from the truth.

The problem with FC rooms as additional space for the FC house is that what happens in the room is up to the individual characters. Tenants can't be added to help with decorating while the FC Master can set up rank permissions to give part or all of the FC members the ability to decorate in the house.

Other members would also have to remember which member's room serves what purpose instead of just moving through the house room to room without loading screens.

The big discussion would be "what creates a reasonable need for one FC/player type to own a larger house compared to other FCs/players" and I don't think the player base would ever be able to come to an agreement on that. Personally I think a large social FC with a large number of active player online concurrently each day would benefit more from having a large house. And by that I mean a FC with 20+ members online concurrently actively doing things together instead of everyone doing their own thing. If it's a FC where everyone is doing their own thing, then a small FC house would work regardless of the total number of members.

[Reinha]

Personally I think a large social FC with a large number of active player online concurrently each day would benefit more from having a large house. And by that I mean a FC with 20+ members online concurrently actively doing things together instead of everyone doing their own thing. If it's a FC where everyone is doing their own thing, then a small FC house would work regardless of the total number of members.

I agree with this. Only large fc's that actually use the house for their events and daily gatherings would have a reason to have a mansion. Anyone else, fc or private, wants it for the bigger decorating space and item storage.

To put this into context, my server (Odin) has 329 free companies with at least 31 members. The server has 210 mansions in fc-only wards, and an additional 540 mansions in hybrid wards which add to a total of 750 mansions available to free companies. An fc with that many active members would be able to place multiple bids and eventually get a mansion if they wanted to. Going by the few fc profile pages I looked at on the Lodestone, most of those large fcs have already done so.

Once auto-demo is put back on and the new data center is opened it will be easier to get a medium or a mansion again and the ones who missed out will get their chance.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

You make it sound like every FC is a solo FC. That's far from the truth.

The problem with FC rooms as additional space for the FC house is that what happens in the room is up to the individual characters. Tenants can't be added to help with decorating while the FC Master can set up rank permissions to give part or all of the FC members the ability to decorate in the house.

Other members would also have to remember which member's room serves what purpose instead of just moving through the house room to room without loading screens.

The big discussion would be "what creates a reasonable need for one FC/player type to own a larger house compared to other FCs/players" and I don't think the player base would ever be able to come to an agreement on that. Personally I think a large social FC with a large number of active player online concurrently each day would benefit more from having a large house. And by that I mean a FC with 20+ members online concurrently actively doing things together instead of everyone doing their own thing. If it's a FC where everyone is doing their own thing, then a small FC house would work regardless of the total number of members.

Honestly - I find in the majority of cases a large serves no purpose outside of "more slots" - most people shrink a large in favor of elaborate smaller builds. I think increasing the item limit on all houses would be a easier use of resources - a medium could easily house a FC with 20 or so active players if they could effectively use all 3 floors (coming from such a active FC myself; no one ever really visited the basement or upstairs and honestly most sat outside).

Honestly even smalls have quite a bit of space if it were not for the item limit. The basement in particular having far more space.

[Jojoya]

Honestly - I find in the majority of cases a large serves no purpose outside of "more slots" - most people shrink a large in favor of elaborate smaller builds. I think increasing the item limit on all houses would be a easier use of resources - a medium could easily house a FC with 20 or so active players if they could effectively use all 3 floors (coming from such a active FC myself; no one ever really visited the basement or upstairs and honestly most sat outside).

Honestly even smalls have quite a bit of space if it were not for the item limit. The basement in particular having far more space.

Definitely in the majority of cases it comes down to item limits for decorating.

I'd also agree that the basement of a small house is large enough to be a meeting place for the online members of the majority of FCs. A FC might have 400+ members but how often are there more than 30-40 online at the same time? It's not difficult to fit that many players into the basement with no one feeling crowded.

But there are the rare cases where you've got a large and active FC who will frequently hold events in their house, such as a glamour show or stage play. To me at least, it certainly makes more sense for the FCs doing those things to have a large house. They're making use of the space as opposed to making use of the item limit.

And as controversial as the subject is, the more popular RP venues that draw a couple of hundred players (or more) when they're open certainly need the space. Having that many people crushed together in a small doesn't make for a good experience.

This is another good example of the problems with a ward system where there are set house sizes on each plot. Players get into arguments about who is more deserving or should have priority access. If all the plots were the same size, there would be fewer arguments (players would still fight over location). If things were instanced, there would be no need to fight at all.