As much as I love the achievements...

[Denmo]

/sarcasm on
yeah why would someone that completed something in this game want credit for doing something in this game? the entitlement some people have. i can't believe people think doing something in xiv would expect to be given credit for doing something in xiv.
/sarcasm off

How's dat endgame going for ya?

[darkstarpoet1]

How's dat endgame going for ya?

going just fine actually. i'm slowly working towards my luminaries(have 2 so far and over halfway to 2 more) and working on the dungeons as well. i don't mind that they are there and i am working my way towards them, but i still felt i needed to post the feelings on having no credit towards them. i just wish they had looked and said ok this is the fewest amount of synths a rank 50 could have done and given people the minimum credit. at least it wouldn't have felt all the time and effort was wasted.

just because i don't agree with the handling of it doesn't mean i won't take my time towards doing them.

[TheVedis]

going just fine actually. i'm slowly working towards my luminaries(have 2 so far and over halfway to 2 more) and working on the dungeons as well. i don't mind that they are there and i am working my way towards them, but i still felt i needed to post the feelings on having no credit towards them. i just wish they had looked and said ok this is the fewest amount of synths a rank 50 could have done and given people the minimum credit. at least it wouldn't have felt all the time and effort was wasted.

just because i don't agree with the handling of it doesn't mean i won't take my time towards doing them.

at least you are doing them regardless, alot of people refuse and just stomp their feet around instead

[darkstarpoet1]

at least you are doing them regardless, alot of people refuse and just stomp their feet around instead

oh i agree with you there. my posts were more of just voicing displeasure and not saying i won't take the time to do them again.

my only issue is they could have even said for a rank 50 they'd even give credit for 10 1-10, 50 11-20, 100 21-30, 200 31-40, 1000-41-50. that way at least people felt they got some credit for the previous work even though it was nowhere near what was actually put in. that way if you were in the 11-20 range you would have been given partial credit for the 1-10 range so they felt as though their time did have some meaning.

i have never now nor ever will ask for them to just go back and say ok here's your tool. it was just more of pointing out the way it's handled now in case they add something else in the future to look back on and say this could have been a better way to handle it.

[syntaxlies]

it is dumb that they are not retro active. Good thing the luminary dol tools are pointless with no grade 6.

[TheVedis]

oh i agree with you there. my posts were more of just voicing displeasure and not saying i won't take the time to do them again.

my only issue is they could have even said for a rank 50 they'd even give credit for 10 1-10, 50 11-20, 100 21-30, 200 31-40, 1000-41-50. that way at least people felt they got some credit for the previous work even though it was nowhere near what was actually put in. that way if you were in the 11-20 range you would have been given partial credit for the 1-10 range so they felt as though their time did have some meaning.

i have never now nor ever will ask for them to just go back and say ok here's your tool. it was just more of pointing out the way it's handled now in case they add something else in the future to look back on and say this could have been a better way to handle it.

somehow i dont think thisl be an issue againas they probly are tracking EVERYTHING unlike how the first team built things

[Kiara]

my only issue is they could have even said for a rank 50 they'd even give credit for 10 1-10, 50 11-20, 100 21-30, 200 31-40, 1000-41-50. that way at least people felt they got some credit for the previous work even though it was nowhere near what was actually put in. that way if you were in the 11-20 range you would have been given partial credit for the 1-10 range so they felt as though their time did have some meaning.

i have never now nor ever will ask for them to just go back and say ok here's your tool. it was just more of pointing out the way it's handled now in case they add something else in the future to look back on and say this could have been a better way to handle it.

Well said Darkstar.

I realize the team may not have been tracking Crafting & Gathering Attempts, etc., but they could simply look at our Character's History and they *do* know when we hit Rank 50 for our Crafting & Gathering Classes. From that date, they could've retroactively provided even *nominal* / partial credit for # of Attempts for everyone who put in their time.

It also made it worse that all the Disciples of War & Magic Achievements *were* retroactively tracked and people got their Achievements instantly awarded retroactively on Day 1 of the Achievements being introduced.

@ those that are fine with it: I realize they won't change it at this point, but SE's handling of it was shortsighted and it felt like a slap in the face for all DoH and DoL who did put in the time. Of course we'll move on at this point, some of us are just voicing our opinion on how it was handled.

[TheVedis]

Well said Darkstar.

I realize the team may not have been tracking Crafting & Gathering Attempts, etc., but they could simply look at our Character's History and they *do* know when we hit Rank 50 for our Crafting & Gathering Classes. From that date, they could've retroactively provided even *nominal* / partial credit for # of Attempts for everyone who put in their time.

It also made it worse that all the Disciples of War & Magic Achievements *were* retroactively tracked and people got their Achievements instantly awarded retroactively on Day 1 of the Achievements being introduced.

I realize they won't change it at this point, but SE's handling of it was shortsighted and it felt like a slap in the face for all DoH and DoL who did put in the time. Of course we'll move on at this point, some of us are just voicing our opinion on how it was handled.

i dont know, i dont think they did anything wrong in handling it
especialy since they told us ahead of times things were not retroactive, people didnt listen of course, so that lies in the handsof the players who didnt listen imo

[Airget]

Well said Darkstar.

I realize the team may not have been tracking Crafting & Gathering Attempts, etc., but they could simply look at our Character's History and they *do* know when we hit Rank 50 for our Crafting & Gathering Classes. From that date, they could've retroactively provided even *nominal* / partial credit for # of Attempts for everyone who put in their time.

It also made it worse that all the Disciples of War & Magic Achievements *were* retroactively tracked and people got their Achievements instantly awarded retroactively on Day 1 of the Achievements being introduced.

@ those that are fine with it: I realize they won't change it at this point, but SE's handling of it was shortsighted and it felt like a slap in the face for all DoH and DoL who did put in the time. Of course we'll move on at this point, some of us are just voicing our opinion on how it was handled.

You know that wouldn't be a bad idea, they could of just estimated the cuts based on the max xp gain for each lv. So I don't remember max xp gains but let's say for DoL it's 500 a cut. So with the 1-10 nodes if you are lv 10 then you've definitely done over 60 cuts so if you are lv 10 then those achievments would be listed as complete. Then say for the 900. let's say there's 60k xp to get to 10-20 at a max of 500 xp a cut that's 120 cuts so by /3 that would be 40/300 in each area. then from 20-30 let's say 300k, 30-40 600k, 40-50 1.5 mil. So divided by 500 we would have 600, 1200 and 3000. So if you were a lv 50 when the achievement was activated for that discipline each one would be listed as
Grade 1=Compelte
Grade 2=40/300
Grade 3=200/1000
Grade 4=400/2000
Grade 5=650/4000

So rather then a 50 having to start from scratch they could at least have a fair starting point based on what they already did. Since as a gatherer, it's a lot easier A LOT easier now then it was in the past. In the past you had a variety of nodes and your inventory space got eaten up a lot faster not only because of more materials but also cause of NQ and +1-3, so had they done something like the above it would at least have been better then just doing nothing.

[darkstarpoet1]

i dont know, i dont think they did anything wrong in handling it
especialy since they told us ahead of times things were not retroactive, people didnt listen of course, so that lies in the handsof the players who didnt listen imo

they may have told us once they decided to add the achievements they wouldn't be, but it was still mishandled when the original team did not have tracking in the game of things actually done in the game. my issue with the handling is that they didn't look at the people that had already done the activities being given any sort of consideration with them. sure don't try to give everyone everything because they had no way of knowing, but i can imagine it could easily have been figured the minimum amount people would have done.

say later on they decide to add the steps taken achievement and they add it 2 years down the road. alot of mmo's do have that, but with no way of tracking we would all start from 0 again. i am more of pointing out for things that could be added in the future they may not be tracking now, but could be figured out the minimum they would have done.