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  1. #11
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    VerdeLuck's Avatar
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Strangely they chose to not allow gardens, which is the exact reason why so many people wnat houses, they want to be able to grow their own materials instead of buying off the MB, same with Free Companies.
    I don't konw what their deal is with being so stingy about those 2 features but the squeeze on housing would heavily lighten up if they just decoupled those from owning a house.
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  2. #12
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    Daeriion Aeradiir
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Strangely they chose to not allow gardens, which is the exact reason why so many people wnat houses, they want to be able to grow their own materials instead of buying off the MB, same with Free Companies.
    I don't konw what their deal is with being so stingy about those 2 features but the squeeze on housing would heavily lighten up if they just decoupled those from owning a house.
    If I had to take a guess, the gardens are likely coded to rely on control variables/scripts from the housing server, and said scripts might only be able to run when an instance is open. Since Island Sanctuary is not persistently loaded, it would make the gardens unable to function in it, so they simply disabled those outdoor items from being placed instead of having endless questions from users asking why stuff in their gardens ain't growing.

    The striking dummy is definitely an extremely odd choice though and I have no programmer insight onto why they'd disable that. My only guess would be keeping the aesthetic of a peaceful island where you relax instead of fight. *shrug*
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  3. #13
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    Zakuyia's Avatar
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    Zakuyia Shizyuie
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    Zalera
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I don't think Island fishing will take over housing. Its a nice Idea of setting furniture on the island to remove the empty spots but housing is special -> for one thing you can afk without fear of being booted from your house unless the server feels like farting (sorry not sorry for that bad joke) With island sanctuary you have 10 min <- like yoshi-p said it won't replace housing no matter how much people keep saying. Its more like Adding more decorations to it along side minions and venues you unlock frankly I wouldn't mind if They unlocked a hotspring spot, or cave spot that can be a secret hide out man liter that bad boi with treasure chest galore.
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    You open the door theres nothing in sight. You close the door wondering whats in sight. But lets be honest its probably gonna just let you down.

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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    This is great news. Finally a place to store all of my outdoor housing items. Now players without houses will have access to both indoor and outdoor designing, which should end the arguments that there aren't enough houses.
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  5. #15
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    Khara Relanah
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    This is absolutely wonderful! People without houses now have a place to put outdoor furniture, and people with houses now have their outdoor furnishing space more than doubled!
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  6. #16
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    I'm looking forward to being able to store things on my island and get those items off of my retainers. Game's been giving me outside items as a reward, over and over, that I can't do anything with except store them.

    Slightly grumpy about not being able to garden, feels like half a loaf.
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  7. #17
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki34 View Post
    It's 7.x
    Next extension
    Just to clarify for those who can't get over this poster making an honest mistake, YoshiP also confirmed at the same time the item limit for interior furnishings in housing will be increased sometime during 7.x just as he had announced at PAXEast.

    Nothing was said about exterior furnishings for housing, just Island Sanctuary, but that's something I'm not expecting as much as i would like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    I did not say ''OH IT WILL OBSOLETE HOUSING'' i was inquierying. Not making a direct stab that it was gonna ''Obsolete'' housing.

    I'm sorry if i sound harsh, it's not what im trying to be. I'm more confused than anything... that's all.
    Not the way I took your post at all. It sounded more like you're hoping they're going to gradually increase features in IS to the point it could be instanced housing.

    Personally, I'm hoping that IS is being used as a testing ground to create improved but separate instanced housing. This feels like an initial testing step just as Squadrons appear to have been a first step toward Trust and Duty Support.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    After seeing the picture from the Live Letter, at least it looks like we can finally hide the cabin from the workshops! lol But still would be nice to have an actual cabin that wasn’t a hub of operations for the mammets! Maybe someday…

    At least I can finally take some outdoor furnishings off my retainers! I wonder if the island will have storage too, or just placement.
    Prepared to place 60 Cedar Trees around the outside of the Cozy Cabin to give it faux proper walls (I don't think 90 Island Palms or Wild Banana Trees would be enough).

    The screenshot they had as an example was really weird looking with the Maple and Autumn trees scattered around.

    Nothing was said about storage at all. I wouldn't rule it out but I think it would probably be a later addition and not part of 6.4.

    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Strangely they chose to not allow gardens, which is the exact reason why so many people wnat houses, they want to be able to grow their own materials instead of buying off the MB, same with Free Companies.
    I don't konw what their deal is with being so stingy about those 2 features but the squeeze on housing would heavily lighten up if they just decoupled those from owning a house.
    Considering striking dummies are also excluded, I think it may be something to do with items that have more complicated functions not working on the islands. It makes me wonder if some of the Trial trophy furnishings like the fountains will work or not.

    I still think that 98% of those who claim they want a house to be able to garden would quickly lose interest if they had access. The island itself is now an easy test for this. Is the player going to their island daily and manually doing all the crop watering (unless it happens to be raining) and animal feeding? If yes, gardening may be for them. If no, then it isn't.

    I could just see the complaints if the garden patches were allowed only for players to find out they have to do the tending, not the mammets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    This is great news. Finally a place to store all of my outdoor housing items. Now players without houses will have access to both indoor and outdoor designing, which should end the arguments that there aren't enough houses.
    Ability to place outdoor furnishings is not the only reason players want a house. It still doesn't address their other reasons.

    Safe to say the arguments will continue.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 04-01-2023 at 11:02 AM.

  8. #18
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I still think that 98% of those who claim they want a house to be able to garden would quickly lose interest if they had access.
    Of the many, many people I've encountered who talk to me about wanting gardening so they can grow onions, exactly one has ever called me on my offer of using my FC gardens after I explain the effort that goes into it. They lasted a whole month before giving up on it!
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  9. #19
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    Rhela Tsurugi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Personally, I'm hoping that IS is being used as a testing ground to create improved but separate instanced housing. This feels like an initial testing step just as Squadrons appear to have been a first step toward Trust and Duty Support.
    My hopium since Island Sanctuaries released... Hopefully we don't need to wait 2 expansions for it to be a thing.
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  10. #20
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    The fact we're getting 90 outdoor slots which is more than regular ward housing opens the possibility in my mind they are working on a housing component for the island. If 90 slots are possible just for outdoors why couldn't they add a house and indoor furnishing. I know that might not happen but seems to me it could and is possibly something we'll see in 7.0.

    We'll have to wait on the Fan Fests given I think that would be a perfect place for a reveal of this sort.

    They are working on more slots for ward housing for 7.0 which hopefully include some additions to outdoor as well as the expected indoor increases and the new servers seem to be giving them a lot more options with respect to offering things people are asking for and improving quality of life.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 04-01-2023 at 07:53 PM.

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