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  1. #11
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Sage Lv 100
    Discuss? Only thing I'm seeing is 'they have even less reason to not have Feo Ul as a Seraph glamour option'
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  2. #12
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    So healers are still rubbish to play, but now SCH can use Carbuncle.

    ...Is this game a joke? Other game are churning out walls of job reworks and big changes and you get one new glamor fairy. Amazing.
    Reworks mid expansion are rare, you have to usually wait for a new one for it...which again just reminds me that SCH needs a rework. But apparently AST comes first...again.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Seems like they're finally killing off having 2 fairies if they're finally giving us Fairy Glams. What a waste
    SE is very much in favor of removing choice in favor of having "the best choice" be the only option. Unfortunately with 5.x+ job design, there was never a possibility of distinct fairies coming back as long as there would be "the better option" in the current system. They could've made the fairies oGCDs so you could switch between them easily in combat, but instead they opted to keep it the same where you have one fairy out and they stay out for the entirety of the encounter.
    Especially with SGE being a SCH clone and for SE wanting SCH and SGE to have parity in their kits, there was no chance of having 2 different fairies again, unfortunately without them copying the system for SGE too.
    Unfortunately SCH is more likely to get DPS buttons than to have separate fairies again IMO, and I think there's basically no chance it's getting more DPS buttons any time soon
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  4. #14
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    Callisto E'elyaa
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Reworks mid expansion are rare, you have to usually wait for a new one for it...which again just reminds me that SCH needs a rework. But apparently AST comes first...again.
    Problem is, reworks for a new expansion rarely goes well for healers and by then it's "oops, too late to change it, deal with it till x.1 for a bandaid ; we'll screw it anew in 2 years anyway"
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  5. #15
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Reworks mid expansion are rare, you have to usually wait for a new one for it...which again just reminds me that SCH needs a rework. But apparently AST comes first...again.
    Think Liam's point is that 'other MMO' reworked Prot and Ret Paladin in 10.0.7, with the fully completed rework being finished in 10.1, that's right it was a MINOR patch that did some of the rework changes. It's all well and good saying 'wait for an expansion so we can do big changes then', but it's also a case of kicking the can down the road, and people are tired of getting told 'well, just wait and see wink emoji', we get told it every time we ask if healing will be more strenuous in the next expansion and it never is, so it's understandable that people are at the point of 'no, if you're gonna rework it and it needs a rework that badly, get it done sooner rather than later', because if the rework doesn't actually address the problems sufficiently, what are they gonna do, go 'oopsy whoopsy we didn't get it right, guess you'll have to wait for NEXT expansion for us to finish the job, because it's such a m a j o r rework we can't do it in a patch'
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    So healers are still rubbish to play, but now SCH can use Carbuncle.

    ...Is this game a joke? Other game are churning out walls of job reworks and big changes and you get one new glamor fairy. Amazing.
    Just wait until 7.0! *7.0 launches*
    I mean, surely you didn't expect for them to change healers in 7.0? Just wait until 8.0! You're stuck with this for 2-3 years, just how the game is! *8.0 launches*
    I mean, sure you didn't expect...
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  7. #17
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Just wait until 7.0! *7.0 launches*
    I mean, surely you didn't expect for them to change healers in 7.0? Just wait until 8.0! You're stuck with this for 2-3 years, just how the game is! *8.0 launches*
    I mean, sure you didn't expect...
    That thread about waiting til the next patch needs to come back.
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  8. #18
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Given yoshida's known hatred of pet jobs and healers in particular, I didn't think this would ever be a thing.

    The wording is ambiguous enough on whether its Eos+Selene or Emerald+Topaz or whether it will be Eos+Carbuncle. Either way, rip fairies being a thing again.
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  9. #19
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    Agnes Nimue
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    Scholar Lv 100
    This kinda confirms they have no intentions of reworking Selene or adding depth to fairies for 7.0. I'm a little disappointed since it's what got me interested in SCH in the first place...

    Anyways, I won't be using the glamour feature but I'm glad it's there for others to customize.
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  10. #20
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    SE's track record with healers and x.0 patches is rather concerning
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